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Ashley

Ashley Report 8 Jun 2013 18:16

I,m new to all this. But I seem to be stuck on a relative I can find him in marriage but that is where the trail ends. George Alfred Crouch was born in 1902 and died in 1985 can anyone help me on where to go next as he does not show up any where else. Many thanks

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 8 Jun 2013 18:19

You didn't say where.

Is this him?

Births Mar 1903 (>99%)
Crouch George Alfred Maidstone 2a 858

GenealogyResearchAssistance

GenealogyResearchAssistance Report 8 Jun 2013 18:20

Hi Ashley and welcome to the boards

Can you please give an area of where he was born and/or died

Thanks

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 8 Jun 2013 18:27

George Alfred Crouch
Birth Date: 5 Dec 1902
Date of Registration: Jul 1985
Age at Death: 82
Registration District: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 1105

Death matches with your info and Beverley's birth reg - there was 6 weeks to register a birth, so a listing in the Jan-Mar quarter the following year is feasible

jax

jax Report 8 Jun 2013 18:28

He died in Maidstone too...Do you know what his parents names were?

GenealogyResearchAssistance

GenealogyResearchAssistance Report 8 Jun 2013 18:34

I've sent Ashley an message saying how to return to this thread

GenealogyResearchAssistance

GenealogyResearchAssistance Report 8 Jun 2013 18:36

or the names of siblings?

Ashley

Ashley Report 8 Jun 2013 18:46

Hi guys thank you for your help sorry I thought I had put the place down it is Maidstone. I don't know who his parents was and to be honest that is what I really want to find out he was married to Rosina Kirby.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 8 Jun 2013 18:47

Make a note of this link to GRO (General Register Office) the officlal source site for all England and Wales BMD certificates.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Unless additional information is available to help us find him on 1911 census, you may have to buy the Birth Certificate. That will cost you £9.25 inc P&P and ought give the mother's name including her maiden name, as well as the name of George's father if known/declared.

Added - do you have a copy of his MC? Does it give a father's name? The witnesses might be from 'his side' of the family

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 8 Jun 2013 18:53

Marriage also in Maidstone

Rosina E Kirby
Spouse Surname: Crouch
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1931
Registration District: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 2920

Flip

Flip Report 8 Jun 2013 22:26

As there's nothing obvious on the 1911 census you really need his birth or marriage certificate to find out his father's name and occupation. There are a number of possible children all registered Maidstone for the couple.

How have you got back to him - it sometimes helps with the searching?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Jun 2013 22:53

1911 poss

Name: G Crouch
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Borough Green
Civil Parish: Ightham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: No 9 Chapel Street, Boro Green Nr Sevenoaks, Kent
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Going to school
Registration District: Malling
Registration District Number: 48
Sub-registration District: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household Schedule Number: 142
Piece: 3989
Household Members: Name Age
**E Crouch 52
J C Hayward 29
W Webster 24
G Crouch 8
S Hayward 82


Borough Green comes under Maidstone reg dist

** name correction has been done to read Hayward

Image says married 1902

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Jun 2013 00:39

Note ..................

there is an Alfred Crouch, b.ca 1902, Tonbridge, Kent on the 1911 Census


This is NOT your guy ........................

an Alfred John Crouch was born Dec quarter 1902 registered Tonbridge ..... and this is the one shown as Alfred


I cannot find George Alfred Crouch anywhere other than in the bmds on ancestry


I fear that you will have to buy his birth certificate to get more information on him ............... please be sure that you do not pay any more than £9.25 (including postage) for the certificate, as some sites charge much more.

DetEcTive has given you the site to go to when ordering the certificate on line

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Jun 2013 00:53

from ancestry ..... may give another way to find George Alfred's family

I do not know if this is your tree, or if you know about it.


from a Public Family tree ............... not much documentation, therefore should not be trusted absolutely, but does give hints.


The children of the marriage should be hidden(shown as Private) as all of them are born within the last 70 years, and are probably still alive. Ancestry usually automatically hides all persons born within the last 100 years with no death date shown.


Mabb & Saunders Family Tree
Owner: saunds01


Rosina Elizabeth Kirby
Birth 12 Aug 1914 in Maidstone, Kent, England
Death Dec 1992 in Maidstone, Kent, England


Spouse & Children

George A Crouch

Private
David G Crouch 1937 –
Doreen R Crouch 1940 –
Gordon L Crouch 1942 –
George R Crouch 1943 –
Valerie D Crouch 1945 –
John W Crouch 1949 –



however, no further info on George A

Ashley

Ashley Report 9 Jun 2013 01:04

Thanks for all your help guys it looks as if I will have to buy his birth ce rt.
I cannot understand why nothing shows up on him as he was my grandfather
So he is not far back in my ancestors.How could the trail dry up so soon.

Ashley

Ashley Report 9 Jun 2013 01:04

Thanks for all your help guys it looks as if I will have to buy his birth ce rt.
I cannot understand why nothing shows up on him as he was my grandfather
So he is not far back in my ancestors.How could the trail dry up so soon.

Ashley

Ashley Report 9 Jun 2013 01:05

Thanks for all your help guys it looks as if I will have to buy his birth ce rt.
I cannot understand why nothing shows up on him as he was my grandfather
So he is not far back in my ancestors.How could the trail dry up so soon.

Ashley

Ashley Report 9 Jun 2013 01:05

Thanks for all your help guys it looks as if I will have to buy his birth ce rt.
I cannot understand why nothing shows up on him as he was my grandfather
So he is not far back in my ancestors.How could the trail dry up so soon.

Ashley

Ashley Report 9 Jun 2013 01:05

Thanks for all your help guys it looks as if I will have to buy his birth ce rt.
I cannot understand why nothing shows up on him as he was my grandfather
So he is not far back in my ancestors.How could the trail dry up so soon.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Jun 2013 01:11

Ashley


it's very probable that his name has been mis-transcribed on the 1911 Census .............. but there are so many Crouch's and versions of the spelling that none of us can be sure what we are finding.

We also do not know whether he usually went by George or Alfred when he was younger

If you get his birth certificate, then that will give us other names to check.


He was too young to be in WW1, and WW2 records are not easily accessible on the internet.


Buy his birth certificate. It should arrive in 5-10 days.

Then return to this thread and post the information on here.

Then we'll all give it another go.


Good luck!!