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Borough Green comes under Maidstone....suggestion ONLY

1911 census


Person: CROUCH, G Address: Chapel St Boro Green


CROUCH, E Head Married9 years F 52 1859 Rag Sorter Lamberth Sussex VIEW
HAYWARD, L C Son Single M 29 1882 Wood Cutter Basted Kent VIEW
WEBSTER, W Son Single M 24 1887 Horse Driver Flatt Kent VIEW
CROUCH, G Son Single M 8 1903 Going To School Boro Green Kent VIEW
HAYWARD, S Head's Father Widower M 82 1829 Old Age Pensioner Lamberth VIEW

Oops......just noticed this was posted by Glitter Baby.......

Re: the son L C Hayward...........first initial looks more like J

I would also suggest that his birthplace was BEARSTED.............

And the form was filled in by a 'witness' to E Hayward's mark

There is, however, no room for doubt about 'E's' surname....it is clearly recorded as Crouch

Buy the marriage cert...............it will include his father's name........if he knew him

WW2 records are available only to the next of kin, and cost £30.00. They are not on line

Sadly I think that one is Alfred George Cock

Maybe someone with 1911 access could look this one up.
I don't think Gillingham is all that far away?

Name: Alfred George Coch
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Male
Age: 8
Birthplace: Gillingham, Kent
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Medway
Sub-District: Gillingham
Parish: Gillingham
County: Kent

Ashley


it's very probable that his name has been mis-transcribed on the 1911 Census .............. but there are so many Crouch's and versions of the spelling that none of us can be sure what we are finding.

We also do not know whether he usually went by George or Alfred when he was younger

If you get his birth certificate, then that will give us other names to check.


He was too young to be in WW1, and WW2 records are not easily accessible on the internet.


Buy his birth certificate. It should arrive in 5-10 days.

Then return to this thread and post the information on here.

Then we'll all give it another go.


Good luck!!

Thanks for all your help guys it looks as if I will have to buy his birth ce rt.
I cannot understand why nothing shows up on him as he was my grandfather
So he is not far back in my ancestors.How could the trail dry up so soon.

Thanks for all your help guys it looks as if I will have to buy his birth ce rt.
I cannot understand why nothing shows up on him as he was my grandfather
So he is not far back in my ancestors.How could the trail dry up so soon.

Thanks for all your help guys it looks as if I will have to buy his birth ce rt.
I cannot understand why nothing shows up on him as he was my grandfather
So he is not far back in my ancestors.How could the trail dry up so soon.

Thanks for all your help guys it looks as if I will have to buy his birth ce rt.
I cannot understand why nothing shows up on him as he was my grandfather
So he is not far back in my ancestors.How could the trail dry up so soon.

Thanks for all your help guys it looks as if I will have to buy his birth ce rt.
I cannot understand why nothing shows up on him as he was my grandfather
So he is not far back in my ancestors.How could the trail dry up so soon.

from ancestry ..... may give another way to find George Alfred's family

I do not know if this is your tree, or if you know about it.


from a Public Family tree ............... not much documentation, therefore should not be trusted absolutely, but does give hints.


The children of the marriage should be hidden(shown as Private) as all of them are born within the last 70 years, and are probably still alive. Ancestry usually automatically hides all persons born within the last 100 years with no death date shown.


Mabb & Saunders Family Tree
Owner: saunds01


Rosina Elizabeth Kirby
Birth 12 Aug 1914 in Maidstone, Kent, England
Death Dec 1992 in Maidstone, Kent, England


Spouse & Children

George A Crouch

Private
David G Crouch 1937 –
Doreen R Crouch 1940 –
Gordon L Crouch 1942 –
George R Crouch 1943 –
Valerie D Crouch 1945 –
John W Crouch 1949 –



however, no further info on George A

Note ..................

there is an Alfred Crouch, b.ca 1902, Tonbridge, Kent on the 1911 Census


This is NOT your guy ........................

an Alfred John Crouch was born Dec quarter 1902 registered Tonbridge ..... and this is the one shown as Alfred


I cannot find George Alfred Crouch anywhere other than in the bmds on ancestry


I fear that you will have to buy his birth certificate to get more information on him ............... please be sure that you do not pay any more than £9.25 (including postage) for the certificate, as some sites charge much more.

DetEcTive has given you the site to go to when ordering the certificate on line

1911 poss

Name: G Crouch
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Borough Green
Civil Parish: Ightham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: No 9 Chapel Street, Boro Green Nr Sevenoaks, Kent
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Going to school
Registration District: Malling
Registration District Number: 48
Sub-registration District: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household Schedule Number: 142
Piece: 3989
Household Members: Name Age
**E Crouch 52
J C Hayward 29
W Webster 24
G Crouch 8
S Hayward 82


Borough Green comes under Maidstone reg dist

** name correction has been done to read Hayward

Image says married 1902

As there's nothing obvious on the 1911 census you really need his birth or marriage certificate to find out his father's name and occupation. There are a number of possible children all registered Maidstone for the couple.

How have you got back to him - it sometimes helps with the searching?

Marriage also in Maidstone

Rosina E Kirby
Spouse Surname: Crouch
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1931
Registration District: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 2920

Make a note of this link to GRO (General Register Office) the officlal source site for all England and Wales BMD certificates.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Unless additional information is available to help us find him on 1911 census, you may have to buy the Birth Certificate. That will cost you £9.25 inc P&P and ought give the mother's name including her maiden name, as well as the name of George's father if known/declared.

Added - do you have a copy of his MC? Does it give a father's name? The witnesses might be from 'his side' of the family

Hi guys thank you for your help sorry I thought I had put the place down it is Maidstone. I don't know who his parents was and to be honest that is what I really want to find out he was married to Rosina Kirby.

or the names of siblings?

I've sent Ashley an message saying how to return to this thread

He died in Maidstone too...Do you know what his parents names were?