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2 Sep 2007 19:46 |
Jeanette,
as you say you have Thomas & Jane in 1841, i won't be able to find him with his family........
did find this though....
THOMAS COOK Marriages: Spouse: JANE POTTS Marriage: 09 FEB 1817 Chester Le Street, Durham, England Husband Age at Marriage: 21 Wife Age at Marriage: 21
which gives his bithdate as 1796, but there is no obvious baptism of a Thomas Cook between 1794 -1797 in Durham, it would just be guess work im afraid....
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2 Sep 2007 20:20 |
Toni
1891
Albert Perham abt 1887 Poplar, Kent, England Son West Ham Essex Charles Perham abt 1852 London, England Head West Ham Essex Charles Perham abt 1877 Deptford, Kent, England Son West Ham Essex Emily Perham abt 1862 Shoreditch, London, England Wife West Ham Essex Emily Perham abt 1878 Stratford, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Essex Rosetta Perham abt 1889 Poplar, Kent, England Daughter West Ham Essex
its the only one i could find though i'm afraid, no luck with their marriage either......
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2 Sep 2007 20:27 |
Hi Jane... Would it be possibe to look-up the following households and the address please? Hoping one of the Georges is mine, I hope it's not too much trouble. Many thanks Karen
1861 England Census :
George Holmes... brn 1799 Lincolnshire... spouse- Mary... resident in Lincolnshire
George Holmes... brn 1799 Lincolnshire... spouse- Hannah... resident in Lincolnshire
William Holme... brn 1791 Lincolnshire... spouse- Ann... resident in Lincolnshire
1871 England Census :
George Holmes... brn 1800 Lincolnshire... spouse- Maria... resident in Lincolnshire
George Holmes... brn 1800 Lincolnshire... resident in Lincolnshire
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2 Sep 2007 21:05 |
Brenda
challenge accepted, lol
bit weird in 1881, they are listed twice at 2 different addresses.........
15 clarence dock
John Balmer abt 1833 Walton, Lancashire, England Head Liverpool Lancashire PIER MKR Maria J. Balmer abt 1857 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire Alice B. Clayson abt 1879 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Visitor Liverpool Lancashire
2 Pier Head
John Balmer abt 1833 Walton On The Hill, Lancashire, England Head Liverpool Lancashire PIER MKR Mary Jane Balmer abt 1857 Toxteth Park Lpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire Alice Balmer Clayson abt 1879 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Visitor Liverpool Lancashire
1891 - 202 commercial rd
Alice Clayson abt 1879 Liverpool Sister Kirkdale Lancashire Herbert Clayson abt 1881 Liverpool Brother Kirkdale Lancashire Rose Ellen Clayson abt 1873 Liverpool Head Kirkdale Lancashire Rose Trimont abt 1868 Liverpool Visitor Kirkdale Lancashire Thomas Summers abt 1847 Ireland Lodger Kirkdale Lancashire Fredrick Hearne abt 1866 Yapton, Sussex, England Lodger Kirkdale Lancashire
1901 18 walton brook rd
Herbert Clayson abt 1881 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Brother Everton Lancashire Alice Seddon abt 1900 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Niece Everton Lancashire Herbert Seddon abt 1897 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Nephew Everton Lancashire Rose Seddon abt 1874 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Sister Everton Lancashire MARRIED Dora Scarisbrick abt 1832 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Mother-in-law Everton Lancashire Jennie Scarisbrick Sarah abt 1891 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Everton Lancashire Sarah Scarisbrick abt 1867 Prescot, Lancashire, England Head Everton Lancashire WIDOW
Births Mar 1881 ----------------------- CLAYSON Herbert Liverpool 8b 82
Births Jun 1872 --------------------- CLAYSON Rose Ellen W. Derby 8b 410
i can't find Rose or Herbert in 1881 ( he should be there !!) but i have found a Rose Ellen Balmer, b. 1872, daughter of Thomas Clinton Balmer .
do you have Alice's marriage certificate? would help with fathers name.........
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2 Sep 2007 21:27 |
Joan,
sorry can't see him in 1871 either,
have found a couple of his brothers together, but he's not with them either
sorry
Jane
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2 Sep 2007 21:52 |
Brian
MICHAEL GANDY Marriages: Spouse: SUSANNAH STUTSBURY Marriage: 14 JUN 1805 Saint George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey, England
1861
Elizabeth Gandy abt 1838 Pancras, Middlesex, England Granddaughter St Pancras Middlesex Louis Gandy abt 1817 Pancras, Middlesex, England Daughter St Pancras Middlesex Michael Gandy abt 1778 London City, Middlesex, England Head St Pancras Middlesex RETIRD ARCHITECT DRAUGHTSMAN Thomas Wm Gandy abt 1828 Pancras, Middlesex, England Son St Pancras Middlesex
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Christopher Ganby abt 1810 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Head Wandsworth Surrey Henry Ganby abt 1836 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Wandsworth Surrey Michael Ganby abt 1778 London, Middlesex, England Father Wandsworth Surrey RETIRED ARCHITECT Sarah Ganby abt 1808 Widdenton, Essex, England Wife Wandsworth Surrey Sarah Ann Ganby abt 1833 Stepney, Middlesex, England Daughter Wandsworth Surrey Willm Christ Ganby abt 1834 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Wandsworth Surrey
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Chas Gandy abt 1826 Middlesex, England St Pancras Middlesex Elizth Gandy abt 1838 Middlesex, England St Pancras Middlesex Esther Gandy abt 1821 Middlesex, England St Pancras Middlesex George Gandy abt 1816 Middlesex, England St Pancras Middlesex John Gandy abt 1821 Middlesex, England St Pancras Middlesex Lois Gandy abt 1821 Middlesex, England St Pancras Middlesex Michael Gandy abt 1781 Middlesex, England St Pancras Middlesex ARCHITECT Susannah Gandy abt 1791 St Pancras Middlesex Thos Gandy abt 1828 Middlesex, England St Pancras Middlesex
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3 Sep 2007 12:02 |
HI JANE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFO REGARDS BRIAN
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Joan
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3 Sep 2007 21:07 |
Thanks for trying for me,Jane-I'm grateful. Joan
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3 Sep 2007 21:53 |
Karen,
1861
GRAZEFOUND ?? RD
George Holmes abt 1799 Bishop Norton, Lincolnshire, England Head Owston Lincolnshire FARMER OF 2 ACRES Mary Holmes abt 1787 Mepingham, Lincolnshire, England Wife Owston Lincolnshire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
NO ADDRESS
Annie Jane Derry abt 1857 North Clifton, Nottinghamshire, England Granddaughter Stapleford Lincolnshire Elizabeth Derry abt 1855 North Clifton, Nottinghamshire, England Granddaughter Stapleford Lincolnshire Mary Derry abt 1825 South Scarle, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Stapleford Lincolnshire Annie Holmes abt 1841 South Scarle, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Stapleford Lincolnshire George Holmes abt 1799 Stapleford, Lincolnshire, England Head Stapleford Lincolnshire FARMER OF 230 ACRES Hannah Holmes abt 1801 Bassingham, Lincolnshire, England Wife Stapleford Lincolnshire John Watkin abt 1839 Stapleford, Lincolnshire, England Servant Stapleford Lincolnshire Thomas Watkin abt 1846 Stapleford, Lincolnshire, England Servant Stapleford Lincolnshire Ruth Woodcock abt 1843 Thorpe On The Hill, Lincolnshire, England Servant Stapleford Lincolnshire
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NO ADDRESS
Ann Holme abt 1806 Dunsby, Lincolnshire, England Wife Witham On The Hill Lincolnshire William Holme abt 1791 Wytham Le Hill, Lincolnshire, England Head Witham On The Hill Lincolnshire AG LABOURER
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1871
HIGH ST / SINGLE ST
George Holmes abt 1800 Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England Head Coningsby Lincolnshire BLACKSMITH Maria Holmes abt 1803 Sibsey, Lincolnshire, England Wife Coningsby Lincolnshire
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NO ADDRESS
Emily Holmes abt 1851 Owston, Lincolnshire, England Granddaughter Owston Lincolnshire George Holmes abt 1800 Bishop Norton, Lincolnshire, England Head Owston Lincolnshire ANNUITANT
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3 Sep 2007 22:23 |
THANK YOU Jane! Would it be possible to have any addresses and any occupations too please? Sorry to be a pain! Many thanks Karen
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3 Sep 2007 22:35 |
Karen
have updated message above for you.....
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3 Sep 2007 22:42 |
Thank you again!!! Many thanks, Karen
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5 Sep 2007 16:49 |
Hi Jane,
Can i ask for a lookup please. This could be a tricky one. I'm looking for a Henry Dunford born in Yeovil, Somerset 1867 in the 1891 and 1901 census. I found a possibility in the 1901 census although I haven't gone into it yet as i'm not sure its the right person. In the 1901 census there is a Henry Dunford born Bath, Somersetshire age 33. I have checked BMD and I can't see another Henry born in Somerset around that time so its a possible but was wondering if you could check 1891 and this one in 1901 and see if they are one and the same person. Thankyou
Best regards, Emma
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5 Sep 2007 18:39 |
HI JANE THIS IS FANTASTIC WHAT YOU HAVE FOUND SO FAR YES I HAVE THE MARRIAGE CETIFICATE AND IT STATES ALICE BALMER CLAYSON AGE 24 MARRIAGE ST SAVIORS LIVERPOOL OCTOBER 9TH FATHER JOHN BALMER OF 103 CELLET ROAD IT IS SO STRANGE JANE BECAUSE I TOO HAVE HER STAYING AS A VISITOR AT A JOHN BALMERS AGE 2 YEARS IN 1881 BUT SHE WASNT BORN UNTIL 1883 I WAS TOLD BY MY AUNT HER MOTHER DIED IN CHILD BIRTH BUT IF THIS JOHN BALMER WAS HER FATHER THEN SHE DID IN FACT HAVE SIBLINGS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU HAVE FOUND SO FAR I COULDNT EVEN FIND ANY CLAYSONS ONLY BALMERS .THIS HAS BEEN REALLY GETTING TO ME BECAUSE I HAVE FOUND QUITE A LOT OUT ABOUT MY GRANDFATHERS SIDE BUT NOTHING OF MY GRANDMOTHER I THINK MY GRANDMOTHER DIED BEFORE I WAS BORN AND MY GRANDFATHER REMARRIED BUT HE DIED WHEN I WAS ABOUT TWELVE .MY GRANDDAD CAME TO SOUTHAMPTON TO LIVE AFTER HE CAME BACK FROM CANADA WHERE MY DAD WAS BORN .AND I KEPT THINKING MAYBE MY GRANDMOTHER CAME FROM CANADA THAT WAS WHY I COULDNT FIND HER BIRTH RECORDS BUT I DONT BELIEVE SO NOW THANKYOU ONCE AGAIN BRENDA
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5 Sep 2007 21:27 |
Hi Emma
mmmm tricky.......
have found 3 Henry Dunfords ( well 1 was Harry, lol)
all 3 are born in different towns in Somerset, and all 3 have completely different jobs, pmsl
so here goes........
1881 Name: Harry Dunford Birth: abt 1867 - Stoke, Somerset, England Residence:1881 - Norton Sub Hamdon, Somerset, parents = Jacob & Mary occupation = frch polisher
1891 Name: Henry Dunford Birth: abt 1867 - Luen Carnel, Somerset, England Residence: 1891 - Woking, Woking, Surrey, England occupation = railway fireman
1901 Name: Henry Dunford Birth: abt 1868 - Bath, Somerset, England Residence: 1901 - Bath, Somerset, England occupation = coachman/ groom
so what do you reckon, lol???
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5 Sep 2007 21:49 |
Hi Jane,
Lol, drives me crazy when theres no proper place of birth to connect someone. I think it has to be as there are from what I can see absolutely no other Henry Dunfords born in Somerset around that time. Thats definitely him in the 1881 census you found and thats the last I have of him. I also haven't found a possible death for him which would explain him missing. I'm assuming that maybe as he was in Bath on the 1901 census he just put that as his place of birth, god knows why, lol. As for the 1891 census I haven't got a clue where that place is, lol. I'd have to say that they are both him, I think I will go and check there are no other Henry or Harry Dunfords.
I'll let you know
Thanks, Emma
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5 Sep 2007 21:55 |
Hi Jane,
I've had a look and we have only one other Dunford which is a Harry born in 1867 in Wincanton, Somerset and I also have a death of a Harry Dunford in 1897 in Shepton Mallet which I think is the same Harry. This isn't my Henry so I think that the Henry's you found must be him.
Emma
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5 Sep 2007 22:18 |
Emma
slight flaw in your theory, lol
you say Harry died in 1897, and you think the one i found was him..........
BUT
he's alive & kicking in 1901 census !!!!!!!!!!!
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5 Sep 2007 23:00 |
Hi Jane... would it be possible to look-up the details of the following four households please? I've already searched out a member of each household that I know of to help, would be great to have details of the whole households including addresses and occupations if possible please? Many thanks for your help, Karen
1901 : John Howard Richard Freeborn... brn abt 1888 - Woodstock, Oxfordshire... Residence: Oxfordshire
1891 : John J R Freeborn... brn abt 1888 - Woodstock, Oxfordshire... Residence: Oxfordshire
1891 : Catherine M Holme... brn abt 1879 - Malvern, Worcestershire... Residence: Worcestershire
1901 : Catherine M Holme... Father: George J... brn abt 1879 - Malvern, Worcestershire... Residence: Worcestershire
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6 Sep 2007 08:21 |
Hi Jane,
Lol, sorry, think I confused you, the Harry I said died in 1897 was a different Harry to the one you found. I found a Harry born the same year as my Henry, so I followed it through and noticed the other Harry had died in 1897 and realised that the Henry you found in 1901 must be my Henry as I eliminated the only other possibility.
Hope that makes sense?
emma
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