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This is a trickly one, so if anyone can help, it would be very much appreciated.

I spent most of the day researching yesterday and got nowhere fast!

Here we go.......

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
York Place, Stepney, London, England

William Miller Male 40 1801 Carpenter (Not born in County)
Eliza Miller Female 40 1801 (Not born in County)
Sarah Miller Female 15 1826 Middlesex, England
Charles Miller Male 10 1831 (Not born in County)
John Miller Male 8 1833 (Not born in County)
Alexander Miller Male 1 1840 Middlesex, England


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Thomas Place, Bow, Poplar, London, England

William Miller Head Married Male 54 1797 Carpenter Firbeck, Yorkshire, England
Eliza Miller Wife Married Female 53 1798 - Clavering, Essex, England
Sarah Miller Daughter Married Female 23 1828 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
John Miller Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Carpenter Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Alaxendr Miller Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 Scholar Stepney, Middlesex, England

(No Charles on the 1851.....so i have no idea where he was born...No baptism found either)

(No Baptism found for Sarah)

Son John............

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: John Miller
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 20 Mar 1833
Baptism Place: Worksop,Nottingham,England
Father: William Miller
Mother: Eliza


Son Alexander.........

Alexander Porter Miller in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Alexander Porter Miller.......***.MMN PORTER***
Registration Year: 1840
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Stepney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 435


Alexander Miller in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Alexander Miller
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 3 Mar 1840
Baptism Date: 2 Apr 1852
Baptism Place: Saint Dunstan,Stepney,London,England
Father: William Miller
Mother: Eliza

(No marriage found for William Miller to Eliza Porter)

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
8, Ingleborough Street, Lambeth, London, England

Alexander Miller Head Unmarried Male 24 1837 Police Constable Stepney, Middlesex, England
Eliza Miller Mother Widow Female 64 1797 - Clavering, Essex, England

And that my friends, is as far as i have managed to go. :-(

There are so many possible deaths for William and Eliza that it's almost impossible to pinpoint.

I would have liked to gotten further with thier children though.

Thank you to anyone who looks in.

Prickles ;o))

Just looking at this

Name: Alexander Henry Miller
Spouse: Selina Hook
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Sep 1868
Parish: St Mary, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Miller......Occ Carpenter
Spouse Father: Thomas Hook
Register Type: Parish Register


Name: Alexander Miller
Age: 37 (see image could be 31)
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Selina Miller
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Stockwell
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 178
Piece: 678
Folio: 95
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Miller 37 (could be 31 on image)
Selina Miller 28
Henry Miller 4

Andy

Baptism
County Essex
Place Clavering
Church name St Mary and St Clement
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 18 Aug 1799
Birth date 28 Jul 1799
Person forename Eliza
Person sex F
Father forename Daniel
Father surname PORTER
Mother forename Sarah

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(if her!)

Chris :)

(and to think I used to go to Clavering when I was little, with my friends to visit their Grandparents, lol)

Morning Andrew and Chris.

Yes, that's her Chris.

I got back to her following on from other info you provided for me.

I did spot that marriage Andrew but was a bit put off by the middle name "Henry" His occupation on the 1861 was Police Constable.

I will check it out though.

????

Deaths Jun 1871 (>99%)
Miller Alexander 31 Lambeth 1d 295

1881 for Selina

Name: Selina Miller
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relationship to Head: Brother (Head) (Head)
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 6 Moat Place
Marital Status: Widow
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 619
Folio: 111
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Selina Miller 39
Henry A. Miller 15
Eliza Ann Miller 10

Andy

Can't see Alexander here

All London, England, Metropolitan Police Pension Registers, 1852-1932

so maybe not in police for long

Andy

Noticed on the 1841 census Sarah Miller is listed as 15 and born 1826 but on the 1851 she is listed as born 1828 and 23. Also she is listed as married but still under the name of Miller. Is that incorrect or did she marry someone with the same surname? Just a thought.

Well spotted Patsy.........i didn't notice that!

I am not seeing a suitable marrige for Sarah Miller to a Miller between 1841 and 1851 though.

I have to pop out for a bit but, in the words of Arnold Sweatyknickers.......I will be back!

Prickles. :-D

(can't stay either, but noticed on that 1852 Alexander Baptism (London, Ancestry) above entry was below!...

Chris :)

MILLER, EMILY (SHARPE)
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 525


(Born Nov 2nd 1851, Father Charles William, 6, Cleveland Street, Mile End Old Town. occ. Carpenter.


Marriages Jun 1851 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------
Miller Charles William Poplar 2 369
Sharp Elizabeth Poplar 2 369


(above also on (London, Ancestry) his Father George, occ. Carpenter. (no age for Charles, just Full. occ. Carpenter)


(with his Father in Law below!)

1851 (Find My Past)
George Sharp Head Married Male 53 1798 Carpenter (Journeyman) Hadlow, Kent, England
Maria Sharp Wife Married Female 51 1800 - Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England
Elizabeth Sharp Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 - Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England
Samuel Sharp Son - Male 12 1839 Scholar Bow, Middlesex, England
George Broom Visitor - Male 4 1847 - Bow, Middlesex, England
Charles Miller Visitor Unmarried Male 21 1830 Carpenter (Journeyman) Firbeck, Yorkshire, England
Parish Saint Mary Stratford Bow
County London, Middlesex
Registration district Poplar
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1555
Folio 63
Page 7

baptism for emily
Emily
Last name Miller
Gender Female
Birth year 1851
Birth place -
Baptism year 1852
Baptism date 02 Apr 1852
Place Stepney
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) Charles William
Father's last name Miller
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -

1861
Name: Emily Miller
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: 1852
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Charles Miller
Mother's name: Elizabeth Miller
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Southwark St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: St George Southwark
Sub-registration district: Borough Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Piece: 330
Folio: 142
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Miller 31 ---- born nottinghamshire
Elizabeth Miller 32 tonbridge kent
Emily Miller 9
Walter Miller 7
Alice Miller 4
Frederick Miller 3

Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

I am on it like a rash Chris.

I actually found that 1851 census for Charles yesterday and the place of birth "Firbeck Yorkshire" caught my eye. But when i looked this morning, i couldn't find it.

Charles William Miller in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Charles William Miller (Batchelor) Carpenter...Bow
Spouse: Elizabeth Sharp (Spinster) Bow
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Apr 1851
Parish: St Mary Stratford Bow
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Miller (Carpenter)
Spouse Father: George Sharp (Carpenter)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: George Sharp and Caroline Richardson

Thank you for the 1861 Maddie

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Grotto Place, Upper, St George the Martyr, St Saviour Southwark, London, England

Elizabeth Miller Head Female 39 (Wdow) Milliner 1832 Kent, England
Walter Miller Son - Male 19 1852 Joiner? Essex, England
Alice Miller Daughter - Female 14 1857 Servant Essex, England
Frederick Miller Son - Male 12 1859 Printers Boy Essex,
Elizabeth Miller Daughter - Female 7 1864 Scholar Surrey, England


Elizabeth Miller in the 1881 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Miller
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relationship to Head: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Tunbridge, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Southwark St George Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 27 Lant St
Marital Status: Widow

Occupation: Dressmaker
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark

Emma Freeman 40
Caroline Mc Kenzie 80
Elizabeth Miller 50 (Widow)


Elizabeth Miller in the 1891 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Miller
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Tunbridge, Kent, England
Civil Parish: St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark

Elizabeth Miller 60 (Widow) Dress Maker
Sherley Smith 7 (Lodger)

?????????
Charles William Miller

in the London, England, City of London and Tower Hamlets Cemetery Registers, 1841-1966

Name: Charles William Miller
Age: 73
Birth Date: abt 1831
Burial Date: 9 Apr 1904
Burial Place: London, England
Reference Number: CTHC/01/030

Name: Charles William Miller
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Registration Year: 1904
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 111

Hi Maddie

Elizabeth is a widow on the 1871 census......so Charles died between 1861--1871.

true, posts crossed

MILNER!!...

(see Baptism 1829 FMP, Firbeck)

Chris :)

Ding!...

13 12 1829 Charles William MILNER William Eliza Son Carpenter

13 12 1829 Sarah Eliza MILNER William Eliza Daughter Carpenter


http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Firbeck/

(from above link)


27 11 1796 William MILNER Charles Mary Son

(possible Father Baptism, and Burials below)

18 03 1834 Charles MILNER 64


02 05 1839 Mary MILNER 76 Tuxford

25 12 1844 Mary MILNER 83

I owe you a kidney Chris.

:-D

this could be another child of William and eliza

1-20 of 7,299 results for Name: charles william miller, Event: Birth, Place: england, Event Range: 1829-1831, Father Name: william miller, Mother Name: eliza porter, Record Type:Death
Number of results to show: 205075


Name
Events
Relationships
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William Miller
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
burial:
6 January 1833
St. Mary'S, Southampton, Hampshire, England
father:
William Miller
mother:
Eliza

Possible marriage for Sarah.....

??

Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%)
BUTT Mary Ann St Geo East 1c 613
Miller Sarah Eliza St Geo E 1c 613
SIMS George St. George East 1c 613
SNOAD John St Geo East 1c 613

Bingo!

Sarah Eliza Miller in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Sarah Eliza Miller (Spinster)
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Age: 32
Spouse: George Sims (Bachelor) Labourer
Spouse Age: 37
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Feb 1858
Parish: Christ Church, Watney Street
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Miller (Carpenter)
Spouse Father: William Sims (Labourer)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: William Stewart and Sarah Adams