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Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Jul 2017 11:20

is this daniels marriage
Daniel
Last name Porter
Name note -
Marriage year 1823
Marriage date 18 Feb 1823
Marriage place London
Spouse's first name(s) Christian
Spouse's last name Richardson
County London
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from England, Great Britain

Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

Name: Daniel Porter
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 18 Feb 1823
Marriage Place: Saint Peter Cornhill,London,London,England
Spouse: Christian Richardson
FHL Film Number: 374996, 942 B4HA V. 1, 942 B4HA V. 4

witness william miller

1851
Name: Daniel Porter
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Christian Porter
Gender: Male
Where born: Clavering, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Allhallows Barking
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: London City
Sub-registration district: London City South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 1531
Folio: 149
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Porter 54
Christian Porter 52
Alex B Porter 26
Mary C Porter 10

1841
in the 1841 Scotland Census
1841 Scotland Census No Image
Text-only collection

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Name: Mary Porter
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland
Civil Parish: North Leith
County: Midlothian
Address: London Row
Parish Number: 692/1
Household Members:
Name Age
Christian Porter 35
Alexander Porter 15
Daniel Porter 14
David Porter 14
John Porter 12
Mary Porter 1

1841
Name: Daniel Porter
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Absent at Sea or in Foreign Ports
County: Midlothian
Occupation: Mer S
Parish Number: 692/1
Household Members:
Name

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Jul 2017 11:37

Name: Daniel Porter
Age: 61
Birth Date: abt 1796
Burial Date: 12 Feb 1857
Burial Place: London, England
Reference Number: CTHC/01/007

great alid street

Name: Christian Porter
Age: 58
Birth Date: abt 1798
Burial Date: 10 Apr 1856
Burial Place: London, England

great alid street whitechapel
Reference Number: CTHC/01/006

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Jul 2017 12:00

just realised you may already have this but will leave it anyway
:-) :-) :-)
maddie

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Jul 2017 12:16

PH- are you trying to send me barmy??

From your last post:

"Ok........i have just figured it out.

Sarah Eliza Porter who married George Sims is my 1st Cousin 4x removed."

George Sims married Sarah Eliza Miller!??

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 12:25

Yes that is my Daniel and Christian Maddie.

Ooop's!......Sorry Austin.......I mean't to say Sarah Eliza Miller. (Mother Eliza Porter)

I was just testing to make sure you were paying attention!

:-D

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Jul 2017 12:48

MILLER, ELIZA ANN (HOOK)
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 447

Baptism for above (London, Ancestry) 19 Ingleton St.

Chris :)

(other for that 1871 posted)

MILLER, HENRY ALEXANDER (HOOK)
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 290


(if him below, age 24, Father, Alexander Henry Miller, Deceased)

Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)
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Miller Henry Alexander St. Saviour 1d 335
Sadler Mary Ann St. Saviour 1d 335

(and)

Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
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Hussey Thomas Owen St. Saviour 1d 299
Miller Eliza Ann St. Saviour 1d 299

(witnesses Henry Alexander Miller and Mary Ann Miller)


1939 Register (Find My Past)

50 Dalyell Road , Lambeth, London
Henry A Miller 18 Jan 1867 Male Old Age Pensioner
Florence C Miller 23 Mar 1896 Female Blouse Presser Single


MILLER, FLORENCE CLEMENTINA (SADLER)
GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SOUTHWARK LONDON Volume 01D

safc

safc Report 4 Jul 2017 12:49

????

number 1 bostock street


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bostock Street, St George, East, St George in the East, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Sims Head - Male 43 1828 - Lancashire, England
Transcription
Mary C Sims Wife - Female 31 1840 - Scotland
Transcription
Ann E Sims Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Middlesex, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Jul 2017 12:57

SIMS, ANNA ELIZABETH (PORTER)
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 436

(according to Below, and Ancestry, London, for above says Bostock Street Born 24th August)

London, Docklands and East End Baptisms, 1558-1933 Transcription (Find My Past)

Chris :)

(probably meaning 8 mths for 1871, instead of 8. Census taken April 1871)


(also to add, that William Chevalier, he Married Mary Ann Hook 1864, Selina Hook, witness)

safc

safc Report 4 Jul 2017 13:02


George Sims
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name George Sims
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place St George, East, London, Middlesex, England
Enumeration District 4
Gender Male
Age 43
Marital Status Married
Occupation Carpenters Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1828
Birthplace Preston, Lancashire
Entry Number 1
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/0540/0131
Household


Birthplace
George Sims Head M 43 Preston, Lancashire
Mary C Sims Wife F 31 Leish, Scotland
Ann E Sims Daughter F 8 St George E, Middlesex
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB85-ZSF : 24 July 2015), George Sims, 1871.


8 could mean 8 months

safc

safc Report 4 Jul 2017 13:23


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Old Gravel Lane, St George in the East, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Sims Head Widow Female 46 1845 Charwoman Scotland
Transcription
Jane Sims Daughter Single Female 13 1878 Scholar London, Middlesex, England

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 14:01

Thank you very mush everyone for all the added information.

George Sims died in 1883........Mary C Sims died in 1899.

Could any of you please give your opinion on Alexander Henry Miller's marriage to Selina Hook.

It does seem a bit too much of a coincidence to me.

Father......Deceased......Occ: Carpenter..........well that fits.

Place and year of birth.......well that fits.

Living before his marriage in 1861 Lambeth........Living there after his marriage in 1871.

He named his daughter Eliza..........his mother was Eliza.

What do you think?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Jul 2017 14:18

It seems likely it's your Alexander- plus no middle name on death.

Deaths Jun 1871
Miller Alexander 31 Lambeth 1d 295
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Also can't see another Alexander that fits with father William, a carpenter.

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Jul 2017 14:20

seems to fit


MILLER, WILLIAM CHARLES HOOK Order
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in ST GEORGE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 143

MILLER, ELIZA ANN HOOK Order
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 447

MILLER, HENRY ALEXANDER HOOK Order
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 290

1939
50 Dalyell Road , Lambeth, London, England
t name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Henry A Miller 18 Jan 1867 Male Old Age Pensioner - 5 1
Florence C Miller 23 Mar 1896 Female Blouse Presser Single 5 2

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 14:25

Thank you Austin and Maddie.

There is also no birth registered for an Alexander Henry Miller between 1839...1841

All this research...........it's a wonder my laptop hasn't overheated. ;o))

Andrew

Andrew Report 4 Jul 2017 14:36

Marriage for Eliza Ann Miller. Father Alexander. No occupation.

Witnesses Henry Alexander Miller(Eliza brother) and Mary Ann Miller

Name: Eliza Ann Miller
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Age: 22
Spouse: Thomas Owen Hussey
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Oct 1893
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Alexander Miller
Spouse Father: Thomas Hussey
Register Type: Parish Register


1901

Name: Selina Miller
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Brixton, London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Search Photos: Search for 'Lambeth' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude East Brixton
Town: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 430
Folio: 9
Page Number: 10
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hussey 32
Eliza Hussey 29
Thomas Hussey 7
Ellen Hussey 5
Louisa Hussey 1
Selina Miller 58

Best death for Selina 1917 I think

Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 14:39

Thank you very much for that information Andrew and thank you especially for posting the Miller/Hook marriage.

;o))

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Jul 2017 14:41

The marriage of William and Eliza is still a mystery.

I presume this is Eliza's death?

First name(s) ELIZA
Last name MILLER
Gender Female
Birth year 1795
Age 71
Death quarter 2
Death year 1866
District Lambeth
County London
Volume 1D Page 238
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I might be clutching at straws but wondered if this was related?

Both were widowed- they seem to have had Banns read i 1823, 1824 and 1825 and then finally married in 1825 Southwark

Name: Harriet Eliza Tomkins
Spouse: William Milner
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 4 May 1823
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Struggling to find anything about anything today!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 14:58

Well that looks very interesting Austin.

My head is in a bit of a muddle so i need to take a short break. :-S

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Jul 2017 15:00

don't help

Name: Henry Alexander Miller
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Age: 24
Spouse: Mary Ann Sadler
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Nov 1891
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Henry Alexander Miller ----------- deceased
Register Type: Parish Register

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 15:17

This research all stems from the thread i posted last week, regarding the death of David Porter.

I had no intention of mentioning his father (My 3x Grt Grandfather) Daniel Porter born 1797 Clavering, Essex on that thread. I gave up finding any further information about him a long, long time ago.

Well, i did mention him on the off chance, just to see if anyone could find a baptism.........i didn't hold out much hope though.

Then Voila!.........Out pops Chris Ho with the baptism.

My eyes nearly popped out of my head.

So............with the info Maddie gave me and Chris Ho for pointing me in the direction of Freereg........(Actually, i need a slap because Chris has often pointed me in the direction of Freereg and i always forget to look on there!) i was on a roll.

Thanks to Chris Ho, Chris in Sussex has sent me loads of attachments of full batism, marriage and buriel records relating to my Porter's which has enabled me to go back two further generations.

Spotting an Eliza Miller born 1798 clavering Essex on the 1851 census set the ball rolling on this search.

Eliza was the sister of Daniel..... so my 4th Grt Aunt who i didn't even know ever existed until a few days ago.

I am extremely thrilled, delighted and grateful to all of you for all your time in helping me to discover about Eliza, her children and their descendants.

I even have one on the 1939 Register.............how amazing is that!!

I still have a long way to go with all the info but it's a fabulous journey.

Thank you so much everyone...........Prickles. :-D <3