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lol PH, so glad we have got you this far!, and nice to be able to help 'one of our own' for a change, been a while since I last went to Clavering! (and long before Jamie Oliver fame!) pretty place.

Course, next step now, 'Search All Member Trees', lol...

Chris :)

Hi again everyone

I have been trying to find the death of Elzabeth Miller nee Sharp born 1831 Tonbridge, Kent.

I have managed to trace her up to the 1891 census

1871 England Census
Census & Electoral Rolls
Name: Elizabeth Miller (Widow) Milliner
Birth: abt 1842 - Tunbridge, Kent, England
Residence: 1871 - St George the Martyr Southwark, London, England

1881 England Census
Census & Electoral Rolls
Name: Elizabeth Miller (Widow) Dressmaker
Birth: abt 1831 - Tunbridge, Kent, England
Residence: 1881 - Southwark St George Martyr, London, England
27 Lant Street


1891 England Census
Census & Electoral Rolls
Name: Elizabeth Miller (Widow) Dressmaker
Birth: abt 1831 - Tunbridge, Kent, England
Residence: St George the Martyr, London
27 Lant Street

Please can anyone find a buriel record between 1891 and 1901 that might match the above info?

Or maybe this is Elizabeth on the 1901 census.....

??

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
15, Dunmow Road, West Ham, London, England

Elizabeth Miller Head Widow Female 70 1831 (Supported By Family) Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England

Deaths Jun 1904 (>99%)
MILLER Elizabeth 73 W. Ham 4a 71

Prickles ;o))

there is this one in lambeth but southwark is a borough in its own right

Name: Elizabeth Miller
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Lambeth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 3

edit can rule that out as living in norwood
Name: Elizabeth Miller
Record Type: Burial
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Death Date: abt 1900
Burial Date: 25 Jul 1900
Burial Place: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Comments: Reused graves at Norwood; see the database description for a link



i wonder who the family are supporting the 1911 elizabeth,
can't see her in west ham in 1901 so might be a good bet
but it may mean wasting money on the certificate

(and the other one looks to be below, but credits needed to view)

Chris :)

Burial Register summary

MILLER ELIZABETH
Burial date 09 April 1904
Authority London Borough of Newham
Location West Ham Cemetery (Newham)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

Hi Maddie the census i posted for Elizabeth in West Ham.......is the 1901.

Thank you both.

I will have to do some research on her children to see if any of them were in West Ham in 1901.

Please can anyone find Selina and her 2 children on the 1891 census.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Moat Place, Lambeth, London, England

Selina Miller Boarder Head Widow Female 39 1842 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
Henry A Miller Son Single Male 15 1866 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
Eliza Ann Miller Daughter Single Female 10 1871 - Lambeth, Surrey, England


Henry Alexander born 1867........Married Nov 1891...Gives Residence as...3 Amelia Street.

Eliza Ann born 1870........Married 1893

All i need is the 1891 census thank you.

(will leave you below, as can't stay, but not sure?)

Chris :)

1891 (Find My Past) (could be Downey?)
Michael Downing Head Married Male 52 1839 Brick Layers Laborer London, Middlesex, England
Selina Downing Wife Married Female 49 1842 Ironer London, Middlesex, England
Henry Miller Stepson Single Male 24 1867 Carman London, Middlesex, England
Eliza Miller Stepdaughter Single Female 20 1871 General Servant London, Middlesex, England
Belinda Road, Lambeth, London,
Town Brixton
Parish Lambeth
County London, Surrey
Registration district Lambeth
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 416
Folio 120
Page 19


(Lambeth Brixton 1893 Michael Downy, 15 Belinda Road. London, Electoral)

I saw that record Chris........I dismissed it as Selina (A Widow) appears as Selina Miller on the the 1901 census, with her married daughter Eliza.

Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
Hussey Thomas Owen St. Saviour 1d 299
Miller Eliza Ann St. Saviour 1d 299

Selina Miller in the 1901 England Census
Name: Selina Miller
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Brixton, London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton

Thomas Hussey 32
Eliza Hussey 29
Thomas Hussey 7
Ellen Hussey 5
Louisa Hussey 1
Selina Miller 58 (Widow)>>>>> Laundry General Ironer <<<<<

Looking at her occupation on the 1891 census.......i do think that's her though!

I am not seeing a marriage to fit.........so it seems she was just "Co-habitating" with Michael Downing/Downey/Downy.

This is how the 1891 appears on Ancestry.......

Michell Downey 52
Lelina Downey 49
Henry Miller 24
Eliga Miller 20

:-S :-S

1911 ???
Name: Selina Miller
Age in 1911: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Lodger
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Search Photos: Search for 'Lambeth' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 2 Wingmore Road, Herne Hill S E
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: IRONER IN LAUNDRY ------
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration District Number: 25
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Piece: 2081
Household Members:
Name Age
George James Courtney 52
Elizabeth Courtney 50
Harold John Courtney 22
Selina Miller 68


Name: Selina Miller
Birth Date: abt 1843
Date of Registration: Mar 1917
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1d
Page: 439

Yep, that's her Maddie.

;o))

poor selina didn't have long with Micheal if this is correct

MICHAEL
Last name DOWNEY
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1838
Age 57
Death quarter 4
Death year 1895
District Lambeth
County London
Volume 1D
Page 306
Country England

yes, not seeing on London Burials, but would say that was him...(and them 1891!)

Chris :)

Thank you Maddie and Chris.

;o))