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Seems strange PH, can only see Mark with an Eliza 1851...(Wolverhampton)

(will look in later, now off to see Mr. Tes*o!)

Oh dear!

Just going to get a cuppa and I'll take a look- Nice work PH. Carol you might have your Charles mixed up.

For further info.......

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
17, New Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone, London, England

Charles Elks Head Married Male 48 1853 Ironmongers Porter Portobello Staffordshire, England
Catherine Elks Wife Married Female 49 1852 - Wollaston, Northamptonshire, England
Ernest Elks Son Single Male 18 1883 Railway Porter London, England
Rosallia Elks Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - London, England
Beatrice Elks Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - London, England
John Mortlock Boarder Single Male 20 1881 Packer Out Of Work Suffolk, England


Catherine is a Widow in 1911..........

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
24 Milton Road West Green, Tottenham, Middlesex, England

Catherine Elks Head Widow Female - 59 1852 Woollaston Northants
Rose Elks Daughter Single Female Refreshnment Waitress 20 1891 St Johns Wood
Beatrice Elks Daughter Single Female Cigarette Maker 17 1894 St Johns Wood
Charles Elks Grandson - Male - 7 1904 Kentish Town

(States 8 children born, 4 living, 4 had died)



Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%)
Elks Charles 55 Edmonton 3a 278

That baptism that Chris found looks good- but as you said, not seeing Mark & Caroline.

Did see this:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12, Broad Street, Bilston, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Margaret Cooper Head Widow Female 65 1796 - Not Known
Mark Helke Son In Law Married Male 32 1829 Coal Miner Shropshire,
Eliza Helke Daughter In Law Married Female 34 1827 - Not Known
Charles Helke Son - Male 9 1852 Portobello Staffordshire, England

right, just to add quick version lol, (shopping half put away!) there is below...

Chris :)

County Staffordshire
Place (link for place information) Sedgley
Church name All Saints
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 12
Marriage date 09 Jul 1849
Groom forename Mark
Groom surname ELKES
Groom age 22
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode Sedgley
Groom occupation Miner
Bride forename Eliza
Bride surname MORRIS
Bride age 22
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Sedgley
Groom father forename William
Groom father surname ELKES
Groom father occupation Labourer
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname MORRIS
Bride father occupation Weaver
Witness William DAVIES
Witness Jane DAVIES
Register note Bride & groom sign X


Burial
County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church name Bilston Cemetery, Cemetery Lane (Consecrated Ground)
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 2355
Burial date 26 Mar 1865
Person age 38
Burial person forename Mark
Burial person surname ELKS
Burial person abode Broad Street
Register note Parish of St Leonard's Bilston, public grave no. 923


https://www.deceasedonline.com/

(above has Charles Elks Burial)


Ancestry, London has 4 Baptisms for children of Charles, 3 with below)

(Charles Elks,
Catharine Jane Elizabeth Cooper Elks)

And fits for this birth:

ELKS, CHARLES (mother's maiden name: MORRIS )
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 420

Interesting Austin!

??

Mark Elkes in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Mark Elkes
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: 1827
Marriage Date: 1849
Marriage Place: Sedgley, Stafford, England
Father: William Elkes
Spouse: Eliza Morris


??

Mark Elkes in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Mark Elkes
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 29 Apr 1827
Baptism Place: Wellington,Shropshire,England
Father: William Elkes
Mother: Sarah


??

Mark Elkes in the 1841 England Census
Name: Mark Elkes
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Wellington
Hundred: South Bradford (Wellington Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Wellington
Sub-registration district: Wellington
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 907
Book: 7
Folio: 16
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
William Elkes 40
Sarah Elkes 40
Mark Elkes 12
William Elkes 5

???

ELKS, CHARLES MORRIS
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 420

So, I'm wondering if that baptism is a mistake- Chris, can you see the original?

If this is Mark in 1851, looks like another child born to one of them before the marriage:

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Markett Street, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Mark Elks Head Married Male 24 1827 Miner In Coal Salop
Eliza Elks Wife Married Female 24 1827 Salop
William Elks Son - Male 6 1845 Salop
Thomas Cubley Lodger Widower Male 33 1818 Miner In Coal Leicestershire
Thomas Cubley Jr Lodger - Male 12 1839 Miner In Coal Leicestershire,

no, sorry AQ, only as it appears on below...(unless it is anywhere else with an image)

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Portobello Primitive Methodist Chapel

So annoying- Just that baptism that's not fitting, hoping it's an error.

I'm pretty certain we now have the correct Charles, but I think to be sure Carol needs the Charles Elks/ Catherine Smart 1873 marriage certificate, which would hopefully confirm his father as Mark Elks, miner- unless anyone can see it anywhere?

So glad you started that at the beginning PH- Great work. Would have been terrible if Carol had stuck all that other on the tree!

Great team work guys.

Prickles,

:-)

haven't investigated below yet...(quick look couldn't see a Marriage, Ancestry, London)

(just fruit & veg. to put away from said shopping!, then I'm bloomin' well sitting here for a 'stint'!)

Chris :)

Ancestry, London has 4 Baptisms for children of Charles, 3 with below)

(Charles Elks,
Catharine Jane Elizabeth Cooper Elks)

Wine time! :-D

I am out of here for tonight.

My eyes have crossed over........and i haven't even had a drink YET!

:-D

I couldn't find Charles and Catherine on the 1891 census Chris.

adds below...

Chris :)

All London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 (Ancestry)

Ernest Cecil Elks
8 Oct 1882 St John´s Wood All Saints Westminster
Charles Elks,
Catharine Jane Elizabeth Cooper Elks
(Abode,13 Lower William Street, occ. Ironmongers Assistant)


John Albert Elks
5 Apr 1885 (Born 18 Feb 1885) Hampstead St Stephen the Martyr Camden
Charles Elks,
Catherine Elks
(Abode,17 New Street, occ.Porter)


Catharine Rosallia Elks
4 Jan 1891 (Born 12 Oct 1890) Hampstead St Stephen the Martyr Camden
Charles Elks,
Catharine Jane Elizabeth Cooper Elks
(Abode,17 New Street, occ. Ironmongers Porter


Beatrice Winifred Elks
15 Oct 1893 (Born 12 July 1893) Hampstead St Stephen the Martyr Camden
Charles Elks,
Catharine Jane Elizabeth Cooper Elks
(Abode, 17 New Street, occ. Ironmongers Assistant)


Deaths Mar 1886
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Elks John Albert 0 Marylebone 1a 537


ELKS, VIOLET ELIZABETH COOPER (SMART)
GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 622


Deaths Dec 1895 (>99%)
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Elks Violet Elizabeth C 7 Fulham 1a 181


Edits (not jumping out 1891!)

1891: (can't see on FMP at the moment)

Name: Charles Elkis
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine Elkis
Gender: Male
Where born: Portobells, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens
County/Island: London
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 103
Folio: 106
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Elkis 38 Draymongers porter, Portobello, Staffordshire
Catherine Elkis 40 Wollaston
William Elkis 17 Fishmonger's porter, St. Giles in the Fields
Ernest Elkis 8 Marylebone
Violet Elkis 3 Marylebone
Catherine Elkis 5 Months, Marylebone
John Smart 34 Lodger, Painter, wollaston, Northamptonshire

Ah- FMP transciption:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone, London, England

Charles Ellis Head Married Male 38 1853 Ironmongers Porter Portobello, Staffordshire
Catherine Ellis Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Wollaston, Northamptonshire, England
William Ellis Son Single Male 17 1874 Fishmongers Porter
Ernest Ellis Son - Male 8 1883 - Marylebone
Violet Ellis Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Marylebone
Catherine Ellis Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Marylebone
John Smart Lodger Single Male 34 1857 Painter Wollaston, Northamptonshire,