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Hi all. After a bit of a break, I am back researching a new and interesting branch of the family.
By chance, I have found my GG Grandmother's brother, William Mackay Broomhead. From the records I have found, I am certain he is correct as his address is at 2 Ely Place, Bethnal Green as per the 1881 census. This address and neighbouring houses continually appear for several different ancestors.
William was the son of James Broomhead (1815-1871) and Eliza Taylor (1815-1898). Brother to Eliza Broomhead (1841-?). Eliza married Henry Smith, they were my GGGrandparents. Also brother to Edwin, Edward, Caroline and Henry. (There may be more siblings)
William Mackay Broomhead married Elizabeth Piper, daughter of William Piper.
I am interested in finding more information regarding William, in particular the connection to his middle name Mackay, possibly through his mother Eliza Taylor, or through his Paternal grandmother Elizabeth (nee unknown), C1790-1882.
Thanks for any help I can get.

You have not given a year of birth for William, and whether you have him in preceding censuses.

Could you copy over that 1881 census?

Thanks

Added:
This one?
William Mackay Broomhead
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Age: 19
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Piper
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Dec 1868
Parish: Bethnal Green St Andrew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Broomhead
Spouse Father: William Piper
Register Type: Parish Register

And this census presumably you have, lots of information on ancestry:

1851 England Census
Jame Broomhead Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Broomhead
Gender: M (Male) Where born: Bishopsgate City, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon Zelotes
County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration District: Bethnal Green Sub-registration District: Green
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household Schedule Number: 51 Piece: 1540 Folio: 90 Page Number: 13
Jame Broomhead 36 Turner BishopGate
Eliza Broomhead 34
Edwin Broomhead 13
Elizza Broomhead 10
Caroline Broomhead 7
William Broomhead 1
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1540; Folio: 90; Page: 13; GSU roll: 174770.

This looks like Eliza Taylor' parents marriage



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921



Name:Thomas Taylor

Spouse Name:Jane Jackson

Record Type:Banns

Event Date:15 Jul 1810

Parish:St Botolph without Bishopsgate

Borough:City of London

Register Type:Parish Register


Wit: Thomas & Mary Jackson

Thankyou.
I do apologise. William was born C 1849.
I am not a fully paid member of Ancestry (can't afford it). That is why I am asking for help.
As many would already know, I do as much research and go as far as I can before asking.
I do not have any certificates or documents for these people, and those that are still alive in the family have no idea about these people.
I also live in Australia, and have no access to the registries in England.

With my initial search for William Mackay I was able to bring up a selection of records to view, and I selected the 1881 census. As this had a familiar address, I got all excited (as we do), I tried to return to the list of names and records to see more, and for some reason it just plain refused to show me anything. After a refresh and redoing the info, no names came up. I'm guessing it's my computer as a similar thing happened while searching LDS.

I do appreciate any help given, even if I already have it, as there is always some little bit extra for the records.

Something I forgot to include initially is that there would appear to have been a William Mackay Broomhead born C1842, and died C1849. From what I can interpret, most likely to be an older brother, and WMB II was given the same name. I haven't been able to find any more info so far.

This one


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906


Name:William Broomhead

Record Type:Baptism

Baptism Date:15 Sep 1846

Father's Name:James Broomhead

Mother's Name:Eliza Broomhead

Parish or Poor Law Union:Haggerston St Mary <<<12 John Street

Borough:
Hackney

Register Type:
Parish Registers





London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980

William Mackay Broomhead


Record Type:Burial

Estimated Death Date:abt 1849

Burial Date:6 Jun 1849

Age:4

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1845

Parish or Poor Law Union:
Shoreditch St Leonard

Borough:
Hackney

Register Type:
Parish Register


Looks like John Street on the image

TY Gin, yep that's what I found too. I think too much of a name coincidence to think otherwise.

1911

Name: William Mackay Broomhead
Age in 1911: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Street
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 51 Ocean Street, Stepney E
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: CABINET MAKER
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Registration District Number: 21
Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town South Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Piece: 1608
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mackay Broomhead 62
Elizabeth Broomhead 63
William Mackay Broomhead 20 Son

From the image the son is listed as William Mackay James Broomhead.

The image states that William and Elizabeth have been married 42 years, 10 children born, 2 living and sadly 8 had died.

TY so much, a lot of info there and a lot of new names to research and add.

1851 England Census
Name:Edwin Broomhead
Age:23
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1828
Relation:Son
Father's Name:Jame Broomhead
Mother's Name:Eliza Broomhead
Where born:Bishopsgate City, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish:St Simon Zelotes
County/Island:Middlesex
Street Address: 5 Ely St
Registration District:Bethnal Green

Sub-registration District:Green


Jame Broomhead 36
Eliza Broomhead 34
Edwin Broomhead 23
Elizza Broomhead 20
Caroline Broomhead 7
William Broomhead 1

As well as William, these children were also baptised on the same day in 1847: Henry, Eliza and Edwin Corbett. There is something written in the margin against them. It looks like F for all except Henry and looks like 08.

His grandparents marriage perhaps

Name: James Broomhead
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Buck
Event Date: 28 Apr 1807
Event Place: Spitalfields Christ Church,Stepney,London,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M06969-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 592624, 592625, 592626, 592627, 592628, 592629
Reference ID:

TY Potty...nice info there.

Here's a little story as to why I am so very interested in William, more so his name.
When my son was born, his father suggested a name which I loved. His father was in the army and had sailed around, drove past and flown over this city in Queensland without ever going there. I kept the original spelling, and so my son was called MACKAY. 3 weeks after his birth I met up with my Scottish uncle and my cousins, and he asked if I named him after my uncle. It turned out he was adopted and had only just found his real name and had it legally changed ... to MACKAY. Mum went back to England a few years ago and went to Scotland, and brought back a Mackay tartan scarf for my son, as his namesake. After finding William's name, I am now starting to wonder if there aren't some greater forces at work here, and if it is possible that there is a connection to the Mackay clan somewhere in that branch of the tree.

Seems there were two sons called Henry and the 2nd one had Mackay as a 2nd name:

1861 England Census
Name:Henry Broomhead
Age:8
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1853
Relation:Son
Father's Name:James Broomhead
Mother's Name:Eliza Broomhead
Where born:Beth Gn, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:Bethnal Green St Matthew
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Simon the Zealot
James Broomhead 45
Eliza Broomhead 45
Caroline Broomhead 17
William Broomhead 11
Henry Broomhead 8
James Broomhead 5


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Henry Mackay Broomhead

Name:Henry Mackay Broomhead
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1852
Age:23
Spouse Name:Charlotte Rebecca Benstead
Spouse Age:20
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:11 Oct 1875
Parish:Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Father Name:James Broomhead
Spouse Father:Joseph Benstead

Well, that makes it even more interesting.
I'm thinking there has to be someone important or something significant to use Mackay as a middle name for 2 boys, and even more so as to name William the same as his deceased brother. They really wanted that name used.

TY again Potty, more work for me to add to the tree :)

Do you have this? James's Burial - address is given as 3 Ely Place, Globe Rd, Bethnal Green

England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
about James Broomhead

Name:James Broomhead
Birth Date:abt 1815
Event Type:Burial
Death Date:abt 1871
Death Age:56
Burial Date:25 Sep 1871
Burial Place:Hackney, Middlesex, England
Piece Title:Piece 49-1: Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery: Burials. Vol 8 Indexed, 1870-1872

1841? Perhaps this is a different family.


1841 census transcription details for: Barbican, St Botolph Aldersgate, London
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 724
Book/Folio: 9/17
Page: 29
Reg. District: London, East
Sub District: Cripplegate
Parish: St Botolph Aldersgate
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: London
Address: Barbican, St Botolph Aldersgate, London
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
COLLENDER, John M 55 1786 Middlesex
COLLENDER, Ann F 40 1801 Middlesex
BETTS, Sarah F 70 1771
BETTS, Elizabeth F 35 1806 Middlesex
BROOMHEAD, James M 35 1806 carpenter Middlesex
BROOMHEAD, Elizabeth F 35 1806 Middlesex
BROOMHEAD, Selina F 10 1831 Middlesex



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Selina Elizabeth Broomhead
Name: Selina Elizabeth Broomhead
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 17 Oct 1830 born 12 April 1829
Father's Name: James Edward Broomhead, carpenter of Bath Street
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Broomhead
Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Luke
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

I knew his year of death Potty, but I din't have all that info, TY again, great work.

Alvie, I did see that family, but disregarded them as the faimly I was concentrating on. I have no doubt there is a connection somewhere, and I thankyou for posting that. It is always nice to be able to go back later on and cross check. :)

Who is this one then?


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about James M'kay Broomhead
Name: James M'kay Broomhead
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Jan 1879 born 24 Dec 1878
Father's Name: James Broomhead, turner of 11 Treadway St
Mother's Name: Clara Selina Broomhead
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about James McKay Broomhead
Name: James McKay Broomhead
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1883
Age at Death: 4
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 179


EDIT This one? Father is James age 5 in 1861. So it looks like 3 brothers, William, Henry and James all had MacKay as a middle name.



1881 census transcription details for: 8, Middleton St, Bethnal Green
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 427
Folio: 47
Page: 8
Reg. District: Bethnal Green
Sub District: Church
Parish: Bethnal Green
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 8, Middleton St, Bethnal Green
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BROOMHEAD, James Head Married M 26 1855 Wood Turner
Bethnal GN, Middlesex
BROOMHEAD, Clara Wife Married F 23 1858
Shoreditch, Middlesex
BROOMHEAD, James Son Single M 2 1879
Bethnal GN, Middlesex
BROOMHEAD, Eliza Daughter Single F 0 1881
Bethnal GN, Middlesex
DWEK, Sophia Widow F 70 1811 Needle Worker (S)
Stepney, Middlesex

James, the father of Selina, was James Edward according to her baptism and is too old to be William's father but the from occupation could be related. I did find an Edward of the right age on the 1841 but he was with a much older James


1841 England Census

Name:Edward Broomhead
Age:4
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1837
Where born:Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:St Leonard Shoreditch
James Broomhead 53 - occupation - J Carver? (possibly journeyman carver?)
Edward Broomhead 4

From Rootgatherer... "From the image the son is listed as William Mackay James Broomhead."
This again makes me strongly believe that there is someone of importance to the family with the name or a link to Mackay. It was important enough to name not 1 but 3 children with it, and for William to name his own son the same, and adding his father's name also.

Please excuse me if I seem to answer people out of order or delayed. I am adding names and data to my tree in order of importance, so will be darting from one entry to another. ;-)