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Yes Michael this i9s the one we have been looking at - Rose posted this on page 2

Jude

Hi all im back got as far as i can WILLIAM TODD MARRIED EVE PARKER IN 1806 GLAMORGANSHIRE so gone back over 200 years looked at document but cannot see properly name of witness maiden name,surname Todd maybe if i knew it may get me a bit further Regards Michael

What "document" are you looking at? Certificates are not available before Q3 1837.

Jude

Place:MERTHYR TYDFIL
Page 77
No 312 William Todd of this Parish and Eve
Parker of the same Parish were
Married in this Church by Banns
this thirteenth Day of January in the Year One Thousand Eight Hundred
and Six By me Thos Jones Curate
This Marriage was solemnized between us {The mark X of William Todd
{The mark X of Eve Parker
In the Presence of { Wm Todd
{ William Williams

[There are 8 marrs on the image, going back to 25/12/1805, and William Williams is a witness on all of them]

Thanks all now have to think what Wm Todd is short for William then i may be able to go back further Regards

Yes, Wm is certainly an abbreviation of William........

Now looking for W M Todd found that he married Eve Parker Glamorgan Banns Dec 1805 as did William in Jan 1806 Regards

As I posted, Wm Todd marr Eve by banns 13/'1/1806.

To be marr by banns, banns have to be called beforehand on 3 successive Sundays within the preceeding 3m - if they were from difft parishes, banns would have to be called in both parishes. The purpose of proclaiming banns was to allow objections to be raised, e.g., by parents of a minor spouse, or by living spouses of one of the couple.

There was no real standards for recording anything pre-1812ish, but many parishes had special registers where they recorded just banns, and it would seem that this is what Michael's Dec 1805 reference is on about.

Thanks for the confusion i had Regards