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Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 10:22

I have a marriage cert for a George Wenham in the year 1895, with his father's name as George (deceased). I would like to know if a fathers name could be given wrong or did they have to provide a birth certificate?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Mar 2012 10:32

No they didn't have to provide a birth cert, Sometimes if a child was illegitimate they made up a fathers name, for proprietary sake with the spouses family. they would say too deceased so no checking could be done.

It wasn't always the case though as the father could be legit and genuinely deceased by the time a child married. Lots of people died young as TB amongst other ailments was very prevalent.

Your cert will have Georges age on it so you can check back on census to see if you can find him , Plus his birth may have been registered

Gee

Gee Report 6 Mar 2012 10:32

They could only go on the info they were provided with Im affraid!

Sometimes a fathers name could be plucked out of thin air or they might have had a step father or even the grandfather could be listed as 'father'

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 10:34

Thank you for your information

Gee

Gee Report 6 Mar 2012 10:38

If Ive checked the correct data, it looks like he was married before?

Have you checked for a previous marriage and crossed ref the fathers name?

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 10:41

I think that he was married before, but have not got a marriage cert for that. Also on other information received from posts I have done it looks like his father could be called Thomas from a birth cert I have.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2012 10:42

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Hodge Nellie Bickel Croydon 2a 377
Nash Lilian Kate Croydon 2a 377
Scott Thomas Edward Croydon 2a 377
Wenham George Croydon 2a 377

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2012 10:43

Have you tried to locate him on census returns?

1881 is free

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 10:44

I have the marriage cert for Lilian Kate and George. I dont know the lady he previously married

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 10:45

I cannot find much on him

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2012 10:46

Is this the man in 1901?

Name: George Wenham
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lilian Wenham
Gender: Male
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Bexley
Ecclesiastical parish: Lamorbey Holy Trinity
County/Island: Kent
Country: England


Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Bexley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 178
Piece: 695
Folio: 97
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
George Wenham 43
Lilian Wenham 32
Edgar Wenham 5
George Wenham 4
William Martin 23


Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 10:46

I believe it is him on the 1881 census, as he was a florist and he is listed as a florist???

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 10:48

I do have the 1901 census and know that to be correct.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2012 10:48

Try looking for a possible earlier marriage...then for the death of any possible spouse

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 10:50

I cannot find a previous marriage and his wifes name only gives an initial.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2012 10:51

Lilian's re-marriage

Name: Lilian Kate Wenham
Date of registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1272

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2012 10:57

Just look for a marriage in the area in which the first wife was said to be born

Name: George Wenham
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: J. Wenham
Gender: Male
Where born: Hertford Heath, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Tottenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: 7 Laurel Terrace Park Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Florist

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1380
Folio: 106
Page Number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
George Wenham 25
J. Wenham 25 b. Bishops Stortford
E. Wenham 2 son b. Saffron Walden
E. Wenham daughter b. Tottenham
T. Wenham 19 BROTHER


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2012 10:58

1871

Name: George Wenham
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's name: Mary A Richer
Where born: Hertford; Heath, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Broxbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoddesdon
Town: Hoddesdon
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ware
Sub-registration district: Hoddesdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 164
Piece: 1349
Folio: 87
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Frances Richardson 49
Mary A Richer 43
Elizabeth Wenham 19
George Wenham 16
Martha Wenham 14
Thomas Wenham 10
Frank Richer 7

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 10:59

I do know that Lilian remarried a William Martin

Gee

Gee Report 6 Mar 2012 10:59

Does it say widower on the marriage for 1895?