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Hi Gins, thanks for that information, will remember that for next time, so sorry.

Hi Janet

Ive just found your first thread, which did not conclude your search.....but


Can you keep to the same thread for this person/family or we end up repeating info that has already been found

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1287382?page=1

Im glad you got the answers (on your second thread) that you were looking for, but it would have happened much sooner, if, we had known all the info posted on the above thread

If you need to push up a thread to the top on the board, just look in 'My Threads' (towards the bottom left of your screen) and then add a comment to it....that'll do the trick :-D

Sorry Mary, I read your post wrong. I think I may have that. Getting confused with the Georges!!!!!

Mary, George did have a son called George Samuel born 1897 born Sidcup

No Mary, Ive tried everything I can think of to pin him down but hes not having any of it :-(

Maybe he was just missed off the census

Anybody found George born 1856 on 1891 census?

Maryb.

Thanks again, I think your right "Thats the Wenhams sorted". I feel quite exhausted, only been on the computer from this morning with all the posts I have had, but it has been worthwhile. THANKS AGAIN

I cant find a baptism for George or his sister Eleanor....maybe not transcribed or some other reason

Heres his sister marriage, again showing Thomas as her father


England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
Name: Eleanor Wenham
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1855
Age: 29
Father's Name: Thomas Wenham
Spouse's Name: Henry Edwin Fenn
Spouse's Age: 27
Spouse's Father's Name: Elijah Fenn
Marriage Date: 2 Oct 1884
Marriage Place: Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire, England


I think thats sorted the 'Wenham' lot out ;-)

It's amazing all the information that you find. Thanks again, bless you.

Janet

Georges sister


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Martha Eliza Wenham
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 14 Jul 1857
Christening Date: 9 Aug 1857
Christening Place: Great Amwell, Hertfordshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Thomas Wenham
Mother's name: Mary Anne

Thank you so much, it has been giving me a headack but hopefully I am there, just have to put it altogether.

Once again thank you, Janet

Georges brothers marriage, he lists him with the correct name....


England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
Name: Thomas Wenham
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1861
Age: 23
Father's Name: Thomas Wenham
Spouse's Name: Ellen Selina Gathercole
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Father's Name: James Gathercole
Marriage Date: 2 Aug 1884
Marriage Place: Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire, England


Georges father was indeed Thomas, it just seems that George jnr decided to call him George!

All the information that is supplied for Thomas, by Thomas or his father, Calab (the father of George) shows him as such

The only info that lists him as 'George' is the info that his son gives....I'd guess that George jnr knew his father as 'George' for whatever reason

Do you think that the birth I have is correct and his parents were Thomas and Mary. I am doing this for an Aunty who is 91, she has given me as much information that she could but didn't know Georges fathers name

Thanks for all the help you have given.

Ive added to the post before your last one

Not sure if it is the correct one though as the father is listed at Thomas. If he was married before, and I think that he was in a census in 1881 him listed as a florist (I know that for definite) he had a brother listed also as a florist. I am now not sure if he's father was a George or a Thomas!!!

Do you have the full birth certificate for George jnr?


This looks like the birth of George jnr father, just confirming he was born a Thomas



England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Thomas Wenham
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1823
Christening Date: 9 Nov 1823
Christening Place: Weston, Hertfordshire, England
Father's Name: Caleb Wenham
Mother's name: Peggy


Perhaps he or his son just liked to use the name George, its not unheard of.

At least we know that George jnr did marry twice! Looks like he and Julia seperated, I doubt they divorced as it was very rare in those days and even more expensive

The certificate I have for George is 1895 and his father is listed as George, in the Cert that I have george is listed as a Nursery Mans Foreman which would fit in. and his father George is listed as a coachman. The problem I am having is that George the father, I cannot find anything on him!!!

The Birth I could find for George was in 1855, Ware, Hertford and his father is listed at Thomas mother Mary Byott.

I have a marriage cert for a George Wenham in the year 1895, with his father's name as George



Is it the 1895 marriage cert that you have because the father on the 1880 marriage to Julia Annie Hale has his father listed as George too?

George (the groom) is listed as a gardner

Witnesses are Francis Riches (Georges mothers second husband) and Mary Ann Ridle or Lidle