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good find choccy

posh houses there too

more curles from norfolk and now in East Ham

1901 census - household transcription
Person: CURLE, Charles
Address: 96, Beulah Road, Walthamstow
CURLE, Charles Head Married M 43 1858 Gardener Domestic
Pentney Norfolk
CURLE, Maria Wife Married F 43 1858
Bilney Norfolk
CURLE, Ada Daughter Single F 16 1885
Greenwich London
CURLE, Alfred Son Single M 12 1889
Greenwich London
CURLE, Julia Daughter F 10 1891
Greenwich London
CURLE, Edith Daughter F 7 1894
Greenwich London
CURLE, Jessie Daughter F 3 1898
Walthamstow Essex

I cannot see the link yet but hold for now.

stephen and Mary had a daughter Amy

1841 census - household transcription
Person: POLL, Stephen
Address: Waterloo Cottage, Pentney
POLL, Stephen M 45 1796 Norfolk
POLL, Mary F 39 1802 Norfolk
POLL, Amy F 19 1822 Norfolk
POLL, Stephen M 15 1826 Norfolk
POLL, William M 12 1829 Norfolk
POLL, Caroline F 10 1831 Norfolk VIEW
POLL, Sarah F 8 1833 Norfolk

reposting FMP version of Maureen' 1851 as it is quite telling

1851 census - household transcription
Person: POLE, Stephen
Address: Parish Claim, Pentney
POLE, Stephen Head Married M 54 1797 Roadman And Labr
Bilney Norfolk
POLE, Mary Wife Married F 49 1802 Bilney Norfolk
POLE, William Son Unmarried M 25 1826 Lab Bilney Norfolk
POLE, James Grand Son M 9 1842 Scholar Illiget Gayton Union Norfolk
POLE, Elizabeth Grand Daughter F 4 1847 Scholar Illiget Pentney Norfolk
POLE, Eliza Grand Daughter F 2 1849 Scholar Illzet Gayton Union Norfolk

doh
lottie is out

1891 England Census
about Lottie Curl Name: Lottie Curl
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Stanlow, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Speldhurst
Ecclesiastical parish: King Charles the Martyr
Town: Tunbridge Wells
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub-registration district: Tunbridge Wells
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Sibley 56
Ada Sibley 38
Arthur L Sibley 4/12
Annie Tomkin 20
Lottie Curl 24

oh, shame -

Has anyone figured out who Jane Elmer was before she and William Elmer got together?

Maureen

In 1881,Sarah Burrell is with William and Jane Elmer and the girls as a visitor. I'm pretty sure she was another POLL...
Marriages Jun 1875 (>99%)
BURRELL George Henry King's L. 4b 574
POLL Sarah Kings L. 4b 574

1871 Ancestry
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hy Burrell 62
Robt Wm Ranson 26
Sarah Rebecca Ranson 23
John Morgan 61
Amy Morgan 50
Sarah Poll 35
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1864; Folio: 47; Page: 20

1871 census transcription details for: Bridge Street, St Margaret, Kings Lynn
RG number: RG10 Piece: 1865 Folio: 22 Page: 2

Reg. District: Kings Lynn Sub District: South
Parish: St Margaret Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Kings Lynn
Address: Bridge Street, St Margaret, Kings Lynn
County: Norfolk

ELMER, William Head M 44 1827 Norfolk
ELMER, Jane Wife F 29 1842 Norfolk
ELMER, Lawrie Daughter F 4 1867 Norfolk

Quite an age difference here so wonder if more than one marriage

1881 census - household transcription
Person: ELMER, William
Address: 14, Victoria Ter, West Ham
ELMER, William Head Married M 56 1825 Labourer
Lynn Kings Norfolk
ELMER, Jane Wife Married F 38 1843
Grimstone Norfolk
ELMER, Laura A Daughter Single F 14 1867
Kings Lynn Norfolk
ELMER, Amy J Daughter Single F 1 1880
Canning Town Essex
BURRELL, Sarah Visitor Widow F 44 1837
Kings Lynn Norfolk

So Lydia's mother was a Lydia Snow from Norfolk, which I hadn't picked up but a Snow niece b Essex 57 was visiting Priors in 1871 census.

Susan matthews b 1826 Kings Lynn m 1854 William Elmer KL 4b617 but unlikely to be mother of Laura b c 1867 but I always wondered if her age 19 on M cert was reduced as Thomas was only 18.Wm Elmer mJane Horn 1873 Marlebone 1a 1010

The William Elmer/Jane Horn marriage won't be the family with Laura and Amy in 1881.
That couple are still in Marylebone:
William H. Elmer 30
Jane Elmer 31
Elizabeth Elmer 7
Emma J. Elmer 5
William G. Elmer 3
George E. Elmer
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 144; Folio: 100; Page: 46

Maureen

Please can anyone comment onLaura's and Thomas' under age marriage in 1886-would the vicar have had real consent from their parents, andwas it usual for them to be at the same address before the wedding?(boarding house I believe)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1335630

I now believe Sarah Burrell ( born Pol l 1833 in W Bilney near Kings Lynn )shown as a visitor in 1881census with Laura G Elmer in West Ham is Laura Georgina Curles natural mother. Please can you find Sarah Burrell after 1881- remarriage,death etc? Thanks

Why do you think Sarah Poll is mother of laura G?

Amy Jane Elmer/Curle married Charles Murray as Curle why?
and why did William Elmer 1825 change to Curle?

Amy Jane (neice)before and after marriage with Aunt Eliza Brown nee Poll born 1849 and husband Caeser Robert Brown 1846.
1911 Caeser and Eliza Brown married 42 years no children.

Maryb.

Sarah poll daughter of Mary Curle m Stephen Poll, visiting Elmers in 1881. Laura Georgina Curle b 1867 m 1886 is not on any previous records. Many Poll/ Curle natural children in the family.

Amy jane Curle was natural daughter like Laura of a Poll daughter!

Aunt Eliza poll also illegitimate daughter of Poll sister Amy b illegitimate of Mary Curle