General Chat

If you think the fur industry is not cruel, I suggest that you have a look at www*peta*org*uk. Go to media centre, select Peta TV and click on fur and skins. It is pretty strong stuff though. Please don't think that as this film comes from abroad it has nothing to do with us as most of the skins and fur used here are imported from India and China. Many fashion items using small pieces of fur trim are actually clothes decorated with----- dog and cat fur. Someone was asking about vegetarian footwear. There are several companies offering this product by mail, just google vegetarian shoes. Bill

Hello Bill, I tend to incoherence when I rant (get too angry!) perhaps you would like to add a calmer note and reasoned argument! Rosexxx

just so we dont go off track peeps,i will do another thread about field sports as this is about fur trade,[kind of] lots of good points everyone.xx

Rose,You can rant as much as you like,as far as Im concerned. I thought you put everything very well:-)) Roxanne x Bill,I wont watch the films,I know from what Ive been told, Thats enough for me. Fur farms are cruel,ther only interest is profit and the cheapest way of keeping them until their slaughter.

I can remember walking down Lord Street in Southport in the 60's when there were lots of shops selling furs. Then they were seen as something very desirable that women could only dream about and afford if they won the pools. So why did this view change? Was it any more cruel then than it is now? No probably not. We just moved forward in life and artificial furs came onto the market. Who of you in the 60's had a Parka? Did it have a real fur trim or an artificial one? Whilst the films that have been mentioned do, I'm sure, show the darker side, lets not assume that this is the only side of the story. Otherwise it is a bit like condemning all builders, plumbers or electricians after watching the ''Tradesman from Hell'' program.

Well yes I would wear a fur coat, and in fact bought one not long ago, its a jacket white fox fur, second hand for £25. My OH went mad, but like I say better on my back than stuck on the hanger. You wanted my opinion and Ive gave it. no doubt will get into trouble now. Regards Yvonne

I inherited my mother's old fur coat and also my grandmother's. They are beaver lamb which meant nothing to me until I asked someone in a local shop which sells sheepskin and leather goods. It seems beaver lamb is simply sheepskin the other way out and treated differently so it resembles beaver fur. I wear leather and eat lamb so don't feel any guilt about those coats. Most 1950s and 1960s old fur coats are simply beaver lamb. So if you have inherited one of them it is no worse than wearing a sheepskin or leather jacket. However I look like a teddy bear in them and it would have to be really chilly before I'd go out in one of them if at all. I have a fake fur coat with a hood which looks more modern anyway. When I was a child my father worked in Russia and we all wore fur in the winter there. Even small children had fur coats. I still own a traditional Russian fur hat with the flaps to cover my ears and I have worn it when the weather is cold. A woolly hat was just not warm enough for the temperatures we had in the Russian winter. That was before many of the new modern fibres. I would not go out and buy a new fur item knowing animals had died simply to make a piece of clothing but the fur I own was utilitarian in its day and necessary. We've not had weather cold enough to put any of it on for several years and my fake fur coat looks nice for posh evening wear. I think that it does depend a bit on what sort of fur it is. If an animal is one we eat anyway then using the leather or fur makes sense. Sue