General Chat

There were tributes today in Welsh Senedd to Lady Thatcher. All four party leaders spoke. Carwyn Jones (First Minister and only Labour politician in UK in power currently) will be attending tomorrow and hoped that the day would go off without protest. Leader of Opposition Andrew R T Davies (Conservative) will also be in St Pauls.

Tonight (private family service) and tomorrow (Ceremonial Funeral) are not the time to protest. Hope there is respect for the mourners and family - and those watching service.

That hasn't really answered my question John

What rabble are you talking about, Errol? Have I missed something in news today? :-S

Maybe John, the rabble who have threatened to throw lumps of coal at the procession and the hearse.

John read what I actually said and maybe you would find it useful to read the rest of the thread please.

AnninGlos sadly I think you are right but I would like to echo what Kitty said

Yes, me too Erroll

Errol,

I sincerely hope there will not be serious disruption at Mrs Thatchers funeral tomorrow. Although I fear there may be.
When all is said and done, it is a funeral, and everyone and anyone deserves respect at their funeral, as do family mourners.

Should there be trouble, then I doubt those of a moronic tendency will give a seconds thought to the consequences of their actions. The protection of the public will be their last consideration.

Whether Mrs Thatcher was loved or loathed, and the country seems divided on that issue, I cannot see the point in protesting at her funeral, especially as she has been out of office for twenty three years.
I suspect that a large majority of protesters will not even have been born during the Thatcher era, or would have been small children.
Maybe rentamob who will jump on any anarchic bandwagon will be out in force.

While I hope very much that the ocassion passes without trouble, I must say that I disagree strongly with the scale, and cost of this funeral.
Is it really justified?
At a time when this country is allegedly in dire financial straits, with cutbacks being announced daily. Councils closing many services through lack of funding.
Food Banks, the modern equivalant of the 1930s soup kitchens popping up like mushrooms all over Britain, because the genuine unemployed, and most vunerable cannot afford to feed themselves or their families.

While I would not expect to see a former Prime Minister shuffle off unnoticed, and the office commands respect even in death, I do feel that the scale and cost of this funeral is way over the top, and out of reasonable proportion.
I understand that Mrs Thatcher and her advisors drew up the details of her funeral some time ago, with all party approval.
Why, when the Thatcher family are extemely wealthy people, could she not have made a considerable contribution to the cost? instead of the estimated £10,000,000 being borne by us, the taxpayers.

I hope tomorrow passes without incident - out of respect.

Tec.

Well, no good worrying about that. Think most of those in coal areas who have never liked Mrs T will not be able to afford to travel to London or throw coal.

Nobody down here is even talking about the funeral. I would say for most of South Wales it is a none event. Wonder whether our friends in Yorkshire and the North east and Scotland are more interested.

I love to watch these ceremonial events. All the dignatories. But not quite the same tomorrow for me. So I won't even SkyPlus it.

Tecwyn you make some excellent and very balanced points

I'm not confused by what Errol said - "rabble" - those who are having celebration parties etc. Surely you understand that?

If not, suggest you get help

John is there any reason why you have singled out those particular areas?

Thank you AnnCardiff (hope you are well)

I'm fine thanks Errol - thanks for asking - a little knackered from gardening though :-(

He said they were his friends Errol...............he must have an enormous Christmas card list ;-)

Have you seen the cost of postage these days?

Singled out those areas because they were areas of heavy industry - with lots of fairly well paid jobs in steel and coal. Lady T never achieved her objective of uniting Britain, and I think the interest in tomorrow's events will probably be very muted in those areas.

Like Tec, I sincerely hope it will pass off peacefully tomorrow. Think rent-a gobs will be marginalised if they appear.

But I still don't understand why you single out those areas - there were plenty more parts of the country with heavy industry, mining etc
Seems a bit odd to me

Not odd at all, Errol. Plenty of places had coal mines and steel works. Kent, Black Country. Question applies to all of those areas as well - I just gave a couple of examples. Sorry to confuse you.

Was wondering if people are planning to protest in those areas or, like my area, are they just generally ignoring events and hoping funeral passes without too much incident?

Confusion could not be further from the truth dear boy.

I may have my history wrong but I thought the Black Country mining industry had gone before the Thatcher years?

I was offered a place on a coach leaving Yorkshire full of ex miners who intend paying there respects, Not all Yorkshire miners feel the same way, some actually thought she did them a favour

Roy