General Chat

I heard that the dead baby was thrown into an incinerator by the father after it died. This was on BBC news.

You can read the full report on bbc.co.uk.

Tina xx

First I've heard of this--just off to check the bbc news,but as Catherine said --how many more are undiscovered?

your so right christina that would have been awful.
I know this is dreadful but I'm just glad they all survived and no-one died-well apart from the poor twin god rest it's soul -and the details of that beggar belief-.

Doing my teacher training child protection plays a big part, I thought the victoria columbia's case was bad but this is like some sick movie
c
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i really couldnt comment my feelings on this case on here

as i cant find any other words other than norty ones

im shocked and speachless and disgusted

stray
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Hopefully these cases are very far and few between,although if someone can be hidden for so long maybe there are more hidden away.There are some very sick people in this world.Can't believe that the wife knew nothing

This is beyond words Catherine, hard to comprehend in any way, he is so evil,


Caz xxx

I heard on the later news that someone who looked at the place they were held, said it was so deep no one would have heard anyone shouting for help so obviously mother might not have known altho must have wondered about the time he spent down there! I suppose it will all come out in the end. One of the lads apparently told the police or someone it was so good to see real cars, I suppose all they knew of life was what was on tv, if they had one. There is a boy of 18 I think, might be the other twin, he must have missed years of education unless his mother managed to teach him anything. How on earth will they ever fully adapt to what has happened to them.

I wonder what is wrong with the daughter in hospital?
Lizx

Does this deserve the death penalty?
Janet

Even the logistics are mind-blowing: how did he manage to feed and clothe them for all that time without raising suspicion?

This absolutely makes me sick - I'm asking a lot of the questons already mentioned, the logistics of it all. Seeing the photo of the tiny bathroom area, (after considering the irony of white tiles and fixtures, making everything look so clean) it must have taken an extended amount of time to create that space, even just to to carry the tiles and toilet,bath and basin down there, how could he possibly have done that without someone noticing. Where did he dump the soil from his excavations? how were they fed??? How were they clothed (or were they?) Has the 19yo currently in a coma been raped too? Were the 3 of them forced to watch their mother being raped? Did she have any help with her deliveries? I am just sick with disbelief that anyone could do this to their daughter. Without details, I am well aware that molestation of step-children does happen, even in a so-called 'normal, average' family - the shock & disgust of which never leaves ones memory. How this 42 year old woman will ever regain some normalcy in her life, some peace of mind, some end to her nightmares, is beyond me. How does one feel about ones children when conceived by rape, let alone incest? Can she feel any love towards her children? Do they have any hope of normal lives, is there some genetic implication for them? I hope their psychiatric help is the best available, they will need it, bless her and these poor children whose lives have been created and endured with such an abomination for a father/grandfather.

totally agree with you Mary
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Not read all of this but was the mother living up stairs too? If so she must have been in on it, or have something wrong with her.

Marion

they apparently say Marion that the room was soundproofed and far enough away from where the parents were living in their bit
c
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I cannot see how this B*******s wife did,nt know about what was going on,What about all the "Excavations" going on to make the space these poor kids were living in? Is she Deaf, Blind or totally Brainwashed into believing every thing he told her?.Sorry I just don,t buy it.**M**.

I think I might notice if hubby kept going away to build an under ground lol.
Must have taken a lot of money/time.

I haven't seen it on news today or read the papers yet.

Dont know what would be the best way to deal with 'him'. Throw him to a pack of hungry animals maybe.
Poor woman and kids.

Marion

It's on BBC News 24 now... breaking news

Kersten is still critically ill in hospital, although a slight improvement has been made since she was admitted.

Other five children doing relatively well, being helped by a proffessional team of psycologists and therapists... but carefully and sensitively. They have a school in the clinic where they are being looked after.

Rosemary Fritzl is a suspect at the moment... no evidence that she knew anything of the crime yet.

The authorities have apparently examined the acoustics of the 'dungeon' and it appears to be pretty soundproof.

The 18 year old boy can read and write, the 5 year old can't.
Elizabeth has told of the 24 year mytredom(sp).

It is correct that 'the letters' shows that the accused handled them, there is a genetic trace to him. They know he was involved in the manufauture of the letters but he said they would have to ask his wife as she composed it. (I don't get that bit)

Family members met on Sunday and the children all came together happily as did Elizabeth and her Mother. The 3 children who lived upstairs had absolutely no knowledge of what was going on. They 'appeared credible'

DNA has proved Fritzl is the father of the 6 children

Forensic tests on the whole property and his other properties are being carried out.

The basement might have already been part of the house and he just fitted it out, who knows? I think a lot of speculation will have to wait for confirmation until the story comes out in court and at the mo it seems he isn't saying much more than admitting to what he has done.
Lizx

didnt his wife

ever wonder where her daughter went