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I've recently started researching my family tree and thought I was doing ever so well as managed to trace back to my great great grandad born 1860, until it gave me his birth place being Worcester Marlley. I received this info off an electoral roll. I'm not sure if this is an area, a district, or a name of a hospital somewhere? All of his children were born in Birmingham if this helps? Would be so grateful : (

His name is?

Their names?

Might be able to help then!

Sue
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Thank u... Arthur Wyatt, my great great grandad born 1860, he had 11 children, Thomas, Frank, Walter,Frederick,Harry,Lewis,Beatrice,Nelly,Esther,Elsie, and Alice. x

1861

Name: Arthur H Wyatt
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Berras, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 249
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur H Wyatt 1
Ellen Wyatt 24
Ellen Wyatt 3
George Wyatt 30

Reg

This looks like Arthur in 1881 with his parents.

Note his mother is born in Martley. I think that is probably the place you found.

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
George WYATT Head M Male 50 Gt Barrington, Gloucester, England Railway Guard
Ellen WYATT Wife M Female 40 Martley, Worcester, England
Arthur H. WYATT Son U Male 21 Berrows, Worcester, England Rly (Pts) Shunter
William WYATT Son U Male 18 Birmingham, Warwick, England Rly Messenger
Sarah WYATT Daur Female 13 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
John WYATT Son Male 9 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Esther WYATT Daur Female 7 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alice WYATT Daur Female 5 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Florence WYATT Daur Female 3 Birmingham, Warwick, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 25 Catheart St
Census Place Aston, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341723
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3028 / 94
Page Number 39

Same person in 1901

Name: Arthur Wyatt
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Martley, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: Saltley St Saviour
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:


Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Erdington
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 161
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Wyatt 6
Arthur Wyatt 41
Beatrice Wyatt 14
Elsie Wyatt 4
Esther Wyatt 7
Frank Wyatt 11
Fredrick Wyatt 16
Harry Wyatt 12
Lewis Wyatt 9
Nelly Wyatt 2
Thomas Wyatt 18
Walter Wyatt 10

Reg

1871

Name: Arthur Hy Wyatt
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Berrow, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Duddeston Cum Nechells
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England


Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 203
Household Members: Name Age
John Robinson 28
Annie Wyatt 4
Arthur Hy Wyatt 11
Ellen Wyatt 32
Ellen Wyatt 13
Ernest Jno Wyatt 2 months
Sarah Wyatt 3
Walter George Wyatt 9
William Wyatt 7

Reg

Here's his father George on the IGI

GEORGE WYATT Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 JUL 1830 Great Barrington, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN WYATT Family
Mother: ANNE


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C044381 1548 - 1864 0855687 Film 6911931 Film

This might be the right marriage for George and Ellen.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

Marriages Mar 1859

Harman Charles Droitwich 6c 407
Hinton Ellen Droitwich 6c 407
Lawrence Sophia Droitwich 6c 407
Wyatt George Droitwich 6c 407

In which case she's an Ellen Hinton


Sue
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1851.............

Name: George Wyatt
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Gender: Male
Where born: Great Barrington, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Great Barrington
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England


Registration district: Stow On The Wold
Sub-registration district: Bourton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Robinson 6
Anne Wyatt 14
George Wyatt 24
John Wyatt 52
Martha Wyatt 16
Sarah Wyatt 11
Thomas Wyatt 9

AND.........1841

Name: George Wyatt
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Great Barrington
Hundred: Slaughter (Lower Division)
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England


Registration district: Stow on the Wold
Sub-registration district: Bourton on the Water
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Rachael Savery 4
Anne Wyatt 40
Anne Wyatt 4
George Wyatt 10
Henry Wyatt 12
John Wyatt 40
John Wyatt 16
Martha Wyatt 6
Mary Wyatt 20
Sarah Wyatt 2

Reg

When you say electoral roll, you mean census dont you?

The place would be the area he was born in - very very few babies were born in a hospital then - in fact up to the 60s virtually everyone had a baby at home.

You can find births, marriage and death cert refs at freebmd and then buy the certificate for further information from GROonline for £7.

Here is their marriage on the IGI

ELLEN HINTON Pedigree
Female Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: GEORGE WYATT Family
Marriage: 19 JAN 1859 Claines, Worcester, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

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Thanks guys, U've made me very happy : ) It looks like u've cracked it. Hate 2 ask but hav u any idea who Arthur was married 2 ,as the childrens mother wasn't on the electoral roll. Could she have died after Nelly was born? x

So now you can get the marriage cert of George and Ellen and find both of their fathers for certain.

That should keep you busy buying certs and putting details on your family tree.

Good luck
Sue
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You don't mean electoral roll.

Which census did you actually look at?

Sue

This is almost certainly the marriage registration.........

Thomas Batsford 1882 Oct-Nov-Dec Aston Warwickshire

Kate Curtis 1882 Oct-Nov-Dec Aston Warwickshire

Mary Ann Curtis 1882 Oct-Nov-Dec Aston Warwickshire

Arthur Henry Wyatt 1882 Oct-Nov-Dec Aston Warwickshire

Reg

1891 census

Name: Beatrice Wyatt
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: A H
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Aston Parich, Birmingham

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England


Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 51
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
A H Wyatt 32
Beatrice Wyatt 4
Frank Wyatt 1
Frederick Wyatt 6
Harry Wyatt 3
Mary Wyatt 31
Thomas Wyatt 8
Walter Wyatt 4/12

Reg

That makes it Mary Ann Curtis then.

I wonder if she and Kate Curtis were sisters and shared a wedding day.

Sue

This looks like Mary Ann's birth

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
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CURTIS Mary Ann W Bromwich 6b _49

Don't know which Arthur Wyatt it could be...they r al close. I know the 1901 census Reg quoted is definately the 1 as this is the 1 I have traced. As somebody wiv mor experience than me, which one would be your educated guess???
P.S THANKS SO MUCH TO ALL 4 HELPING x