Genealogy Chat

How can I find a maiden name when I've searched all the sites and turned up zero?Born c1865 in Retford, Notts. Went to USA with husband Thomas. Had four children in Philadelphia and returned to Thomas's home in Sheffield and had four more.

How Can I find My father who I have limited infro on. My mother refuses to tell me and all I know but not for sure is.... his name is SID he use to drink in the Green Gate pub in Bethnal Green Hackney London. I would say my mother met him in 1969/70 as I was born in september 1970.
Can anyone help as I want to know

Thank You

Marilyn Merritt

When did they go to the States

Who would what to ask for something on the TTF if thats how you talk to them

Sorry but I'm back again. What does anyone think of this?

Annie (Blake?)

Married to Thomas Judge 1859 from Sheffield
1901 census says Annie was born in Retford
Marriage says they were wed in Basford
Basford is a suburb of Nottingham
Retford is near Worksop
There is a family of Blakes listed on FreeBMD in Basford
I can find no connection with Retford other than 1901 census
FreeBMD says they were wed in 1887
They were in USA between 1883 and 1889
They were in Sheffield for 1881 census

Do you think I've got the wrong person?

Sorry, could you put the 1901 infor on for them? Probably me getting old but Im trying to follow how you got them going to and from the states? Are the children shown as born US?

You dont seem to have bought any certs?

I know from my own family that they went to USA and familysearch has confirmed that with the birth of their first 4 children appearing on 1880 USA census.

Right, for reference: 1891 Thomas is a joiner

Name: Annie Judge
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Pulford, Lincolnshire, England (Looks like Retford)

Civil Parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England





Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 8

Annie Judge 27
Annie Judge 2
Arthur Judge 4
Grace Judge 6
Sarah H Judge 7
Thomas Judge 33

Creamcheese Annie can't have had 4 children by 1880 if she was born in 1865

Better it's got their middle names

1901 England Census
about Annie Maria Judge
Name: Annie Maria Judge
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas Alfred
Gender: Female
Where born: Retford, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Netherthorpe Sheffield St Stephen
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Alfred Indge 42
Alfred Judge 4
Annie Maria Judge 36
Arthur Judge 14
Clara Judge 9
Dennis Judge 7
Grace Judge 16
Sydney Judge 2

Grace & Arthur born USA

Thanks Claire - Im thinking possibly 2 wives here too.

Can you see them in 81? Cream cheese, Im sure its all really clear to you but we dont know anything about these people or their history, if you could put on the census info etc it does help people to follow (even when they arent as old as me!)

Thanks Claire and Heather (by the way, I didn't mean she'd had her children by 1880, that was when she went to USA) This is def the right person. But 1891 is saying she was born in Pulford and 1901 says Retford. All I need now is her maiden name. I'll go and search Pulford area now.

Creamcheese, if you look at the image of the census it actually says Lincolnshire, Retford on the 91. I still cant see them in 1881 though ? Can you put it on here for us. Im beginning to think this Annie is a second wife possibly - see the 5 year gap between the kids? Of course they may have lost a couple of kids in that period but something isnt quite right.

Heather - no they were in USA in 1881 and appear on USA census then. How can I send you their info? Do you want to give me your email?

Ah right, didnt you say they were back in Sheffield in 81?

Just checked - yes you did! LOL, no wonder I couldnt find them.


As I said the 91 transcription says Pulford but the actual image - check it out - says Retford for annies place of birth.

From this Annie was born in 1864/5
You say she had moved to America by 1880
Sarah the eldest child was born USA
I'd say there's a ggod chance that the marriage took place in America.

To me the only way forward is to get one of the children's birth cert to find out Annie's maiden name.

They were back by 1891. Any ideas on searching for her maiden name - I've just tried freebmd and got nothing

Hey Claire - I hadn't thought of that! Thanks

Right - so they werent actually in Sheffield in 81.

And the 91 says Annie born Retford if you look at census image.

This looks like Clara, I picked her as she has a more unusual name

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Clara Judge
Name: Clara Judge *******
Year of Registration: 1891 *********
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep *********
District: Sheffield ********
County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c ***********
Page: 492 (click to see others on page) *************

THE ROW OF ********* ARE TO SHOW THE INFO YOU NEED FOR A CERT