Genealogy Chat

Kate - Obvious isn't it!! lol Obviously not got my head screwed on straight today......! Merry

Merry, it's not surprising that they would have a Carr visiting, because David was only looking for them as that Ellen's maiden name (or at least her surname before she married Mr. Aggers) was Carr. It's just that it doesn't look as though her Carr family were anything to do with the ones that David's looking for. Kate.

Hi David - Well I agree with all you say!!! Also that they should have a Carr in the house in 1901 seems pretty unbelievable!! It's really strange isn't it??? Merry

Thanks Merry:) I was thinking that the Ellen who married in 1893 might have been my Ellen (b1878 Islington) and that wld explain her absence on 1901. But Mrs Aggus was an Ellen born c1862 so couldn't have been mine (who had her last child in 1920). Just found it very strange that such an unusual surname cropped up at the address my Ellen married from. Clutching at straws I spose:)

Did you?? Oh, whoops! Merry

Withdrawing my tentative Hooray, but there surely is some sort of connection with this lot? Do you know who Arthur E Carr is? Merry

Sorry Merry - I mentioned her earlier:) Which sort of discounted my whole Aggus thing:(

Hi Merry Well done for getting my rambling lol. I found Ada Aggus (Ada Ellen Aggers abt 1897 Kingsland, London, England) and she wasn't even a daughter of the other Ellen:)) I think the Aggus thing must be a red herring because the father of the Ellen who married the Aggus came from Berkshire so not even a relation there! I have got the marriage cert and she is down as a spinster. When I get the birth cert I'm waiting for I will at least know if she had another Adams child before she married John and where she was in 1902.

Hey!!!!!!! Have not even looked at this yet.......but Aggers and Carr together!!!!! And an Ellen A tentative Hooray?? Charles E Aggers abt 1896 Islington, London, England Son Islington London Ellen H Aggers abt 1862 Old Ford, London, England Wife Islington London Henry G C Aggers abt 1888 Old Ford, London, England Son Islington London Jessie Wand Aggers abt 1892 South Newington, London, England Daughter Islington London John N Aggers abt 1894 South Newington, London, England Son Islington London Lily A Aggers abt 1898 Islington, London, England Daughter Islington London Sidney R Aggers abt 1900 Islington, London, England Son Islington London William E Aggers abt 1859 London City Head Islington London Arthur E Carr abt 1885 London City Visitor Islington London Albert Tracey abt 1882 Hoxton, London, England Visitor Islington London Merry

At last, I do have my head round this!!!!! I notice there are quite a few Aggus children born in Islington after the 1893 marriage. One stands out - Ada Ellen..... Obviously, she and any of the others may be nothing to do with Edward Aggus and his possibly-15-year-old-bride.....but....pity I can't find her (Ada) or any of the other children reg in Islington in the 1901 census???!! I don't suppose you have the 1905 marriage cert? I realise she has married using her maiden name (possibly because the Aggus thing is a red herring - though it seems a big herring, doesn't it?), but I did wonder if it also says spinster too? Merry

Hi Jim Thanks very much for looking but I've found Harriet before and she appears with another Carr (Sarah). It looks likely they're sisters and appear together in Ewell in 1891. Mine's still in Islington then so I don't think it's her. I appreciate you trying:)

1901 census Harriet Carr abt 1879 Parish Not Known, London, England Servant Tooting Graveney London

Thanks for trying Gloria - It's not her as her parents were Charles and Ann but thanks:) Thanks Mandy:)) I'm thinking she must be missing or living under an alias. I've tried every variation of her name I can think of her but she just aint there:) Maybe the birth cert I'm waiting for will help.

David, you know I always have time and inclination for you :)) I haven't been at this game long enough to be able to sort out puzzles like that for myself, let alone anyone else, BUT I'm around all evening so if you want an Ancestry or 1837 lookup I can do those for you no problem. Mandy :)

Don't know if this is any good, different birthyear and christian names switched round but couldn't find anything else Alice Carr abt 1873 Bromley by Bow, London, England Daughter Bromley London Ethel Carr abt 1885 Bromley by Bow, London, England Daughter Bromley London George Carr abt 1843 Cheshire, England Head Bromley London ***** Harriet E Carr abt 1871 Bromley by Bow, London, England Daughter Bromley London Rose Carr abt 1883 Bromley by Bow, London, England Daughter Bromley London Sarah A Carr abt 1849 Walmsgate, Yorkshire, England Wife Bromley London Gloria x

Don't they just:) Thanks very much for yr help Kate - at least there's some stuff eliminated now. I'll delete this later and ask for help a bit more clearly:)

Can't find her at the moment, but unfortunately I know from experience that people who were born in Islington or Hackney often have a different birthplace for every census, such as Dalston, Holloway, Kingsland, etc. I have to go and do some housework now, anyway, so I can't search any longer. Hope somebody finds her! Kate.

Despite having looked loads before I've now found Ellen H Aggers on the 1901 born c1862 Old Ford so clearly not mine and I'm now just stuck looking for an Ellen Harriet Carr on the 1901:)

Thanks - I've just done the same:)

The 'somebody Kingaby' is Frederick Charles Kingaby, and the 'other' bride is Fanny Catherine Houghton, and on the 1901 there is a Frederick C. Kingaby in Stoke Newington with wife Fanny C. or could be Fanny E., and their oldest child is 6, so I would say they must be the other 2 off the marriage list, leaving Edward William Aggus marrying Ellen Harriett Carr. Kate.