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Been looking for hours and hours and can not find a birth on any of the BMD sites. Wondered if anyone might be able to find or give some advice on where to look next details; Frederick Tingle born 1863 Cinderford Gloucester This info ties up with 1901 cencus but just cannot find a birth reg. and help would be soooo welcome

Have you only found him in 1901 - not on any other census or do you have his marriage cert with his age?

Registration of births wasn't compulsory until 1875. Have you found him on an earlier census with brothers and sisters?

have you looked on the freebmd index on ancestry its the same as the 1837 site http://www.ancestry(.)co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx Remove brackets Jeanette

only have him from 1901 cenus. which ties up to info from rrelatives ie place of birth and age.

just found him in the workhouse in 1871 and 1881 - poor boy, it may be that he was 'dumped' at the workhouse by his mother - you could try and find a baptism for him...

Hi, is this him in 1901 - says 1858 birth View Record Albert Tingle abt 1898 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Arthur Tingle abt 1887 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Elizabeth Tingle abt 1880 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Ethel Tingle abt 1893 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Frederick Tingle abt 1858 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Israel Tingle abt 1885 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Leonel Tingle abt 1889 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Mary Ann Tingle abt 1859 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Maurice Tingle abt 1891 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Tom Tingle abt 1895 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire In 1871 there is a Fred Tingle which seems to be this guy but born 1863 and a pauper in a workhouse?

1901 this is only one i could find age slighlty out though Albert Tingle abt 1898 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Arthur Tingle abt 1887 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Elizabeth Tingle abt 1880 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Ethel Tingle abt 1893 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire ===View Record Frederick Tingle abt 1858 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Israel Tingle abt 1885 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Leonel Tingle abt 1889 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Mary Ann Tingle abt 1859 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Maurice Tingle abt 1891 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Tom Tingle abt 1895 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean

I'm having a feeling of deja vu here....didnt Jess find him for you earlier? In the 1871 I think - he was a pauper... Or is it time I went to bed?! OC

Olde Crone, thats the one. Oh dear is this a duplicated thread? Im off to bed then. Nite nite O.C.

this could be his marriage - if you ordered that it would give the fathers name: - View Record Thomas Biggin 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Sheffield South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire View Record Fanny Maria Bramhall 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Sheffield South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire View Record Harriett Ann Brett 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Sheffield South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire >>>View Record Mary Ann Hurt 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Sheffield South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire >>>View Record Frederick Tingle 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Sheffield South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire

thanks for all the replies. the lad from 1858 looks closest i guess, if so wow what a fib about his age. Col was that a wind up about the workhouse or true?

true, will post the details... 1871 (relation PAUPER) Name: Frederick Tingle Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Pauper Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Westbury on Severn County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Source information: RG10/2604 Registration district: Westbury On Severn Sub-registration district: Huntley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 69 Page: 16 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 75 GSU Number: 835279 1881 (relation INMATE) Name: Frederick Tingle Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Inmate Household: View other family members Family and neighbors: View neighbors Gender: Male Where Born: Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Bitton - Oldland County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: 'Kingswood Reformatory' In Oldland Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Source information: RG11/2447 Registration district: Keynsham Sub registration district: Oldland ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 67 Page: 40 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 1341589 SORRY, in 1881, he is in a Reformatory

THIS IS HIM IN 1901 he has been mistranscribed: View Record James Birch abt 1874 Not Known, Leicestershire, England Boarder Denaby Yorkshire View Record Ada Gill abt 1885 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Daughter Denaby Yorkshire View Record Doris E Lingle abt 1901 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Daughter Denaby Yorkshire View Record Fred Lingle abt 1899 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire View Record Frederick Lingle abt 1863 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head Denaby Yorkshire View Record John H Lingle abt 1896 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire View Record Joseph Lingle abt 1891 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire View Record Mary A Lingle abt 1868 Landeywoods, Staffordshire, England Wife Denaby Yorkshire View Record Walter Lingle abt 1894 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire View Record Elizah Sufft abt 1874 Cheslyn Hay, Staffordshire, England Boarder Denaby Yorkshire

thanks for the help, ( going dizzy with looking) so just to recap how do i now find his fathers name etc. from marriage certs?

I would definately buy the marriage cert, but from the looks of it, it looks as though he may be a foundlung, so may not know who his father was or he may just make one up, you need to buy the marriage cert and then go from there.

realy appreciate the help got further in last 5 mins than last 10 hours lol

Colwood Tom can i just ask 1 more question. on the print out thing you posted it says Disabilty;view image any idea what that might mean or is there an image to see?

Perhaps this is your Frederick: Christening: 31 OCT 1858 Abinghall, Gloucester, England Parents: Father: ROBERT TINGLE Mother: CAROLINE There was also a brother listed, Edmund, who was christened the same day. Judy

All the census have a heading for disability - it doesnt mean he was disabled unless the enumerator enters something in that column like Blind or something. Im afraid I dont think that is the right marriage Tom - its in Sheffield for one thing and it is 5 years after the birth of the first child. Id look a bit earlier I think probably around 1879. I think you could do well to take out an ancestry sub and look for the family through 1901 back to 1841. The marriage certificate can be bought for £7 from the GRO online website - it will give the fathers names and occupations of both bride and groom, the couples ages, where they were living at time of marriage and the witness names which are often good clues. You can then look for this Freds birth certificate which will give dad and mums names and work backwards from that info.