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Denise

Denise Report 14 Aug 2006 16:44

Thanks a lot to all who helped me. Its much appreciated. Must dash now but will be back later to rummage around. Thank You Denise.

Thelma

Thelma Report 14 Aug 2006 16:35

1881 census Betsy A. Halve abt 1841 Artford, Cheshire, England Wife Ince in Makerfield Lancashire Betsy A. Halve abt 1868 Leigh, Lancashire, England Daughter Ince in Makerfield Lancashire Clara F. Halve abt 1874 Leigh, Lancashire, England Daughter Ince in Makerfield Lancashire Elijah Halve abt 1838 Witegate, Cheshire, England Head Ince in Makerfield Lancashire Elijah A. Halve abt 1878 Leigh, Lancashire, England Son Ince in Makerfield Lancashire George H. Halve abt 1876 Leigh, Lancashire, England Son Ince in Makerfield Lancashire Mary L. Halve abt 1863 Winsford, Cheshire, England Daughter Ince in Makerfield Lancashire Sarah E. Halve abt 1865 Winsford, Cheshire, England Daughter Ince in Makerfield Lancashire zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 1871 census for comparison Betsy A Hulse 4 Betsy Ann Hulse 29 John A J Hulse 1 Mary L Hulse 8 Rhoda Hulse 10 Sarah E Hulse 6

Denise

Denise Report 14 Aug 2006 16:35

lol Judith, Ive also just found it. Think I'll just order the cert and see what comes. Might be clues with the witness names eh. His jobs were pretty varied . Jim, Thanks for that. Something to consider. Must go now so thanks again. Update. Thanks Jim I would have never found that. It is my family mistranscribed.

Judith

Judith Report 14 Aug 2006 16:32

I've just shot my theory out of the water. Elijah the shipwright, aged 67 and wife Martha are also on the 1901 census RG13; Piece: 3343; Folio: 122; Page: 29.

Thelma

Thelma Report 14 Aug 2006 16:24

1901 census View Record Betsey Hulse Elizah abt 1841 Hartford, Cheshire, England Wife Abram Lancashire View Record Elizah Hulse Betsey abt 1838 Winsford, Cheshire, England Head Abram Lancashire

Judith

Judith Report 14 Aug 2006 16:24

Sad fact that we genealogists get excited at finding law breakers. I got a funny look or two when I expressed joy at finding my 3xgt grandfather had served a prison sentence! Have just spotted Elijah and Betsey together at last on the 1901 census. He's transcribed as Elizah again. They're in Lancashire and he's working at the colliery. RG13; Piece: 3560; Folio: 53; Page: 16 PS there's a death entry in the GRO index for Betsy Ann Hulse in 1909.

Denise

Denise Report 14 Aug 2006 16:14

Judith, anythings possible. I'm pretty sure it is the right man. I'll have to do some more research and see what that throws up. Oh I would love a bigamist in the family. Cant find Betsy on any later census so maybe she croaked it?

Judith

Judith Report 14 Aug 2006 16:08

Could Elijah have told Betsy he was a flatman/policeman to cover up his absence at nights? There's an Elijah Hulse of about the right age living with 'wife' Martha and family in Over, Cheshire in 1881 and in Wharton Cheshire in 1861. Update - he's also in Over in 1871 with Martha. Mistranscribed as Eliza Hulse, aged 37, occupation ship carpenter.

Denise

Denise Report 14 Aug 2006 16:01

Elaine, Poor woman thats poss why she has her sister living with her , Hes never at home.

Elaine

Elaine Report 14 Aug 2006 15:58

?? Flatmans wife Flatman / Floatman = Boatman on a flat bottom boat (a flat) used in shallow waters (mainly rivers and canals) for transport. The term also came to refer to shallow-draft coastal sailing vessels - so maybe he was on the boat on census night ??

Denise

Denise Report 14 Aug 2006 15:56

Thanks Elaine, Yes thats the one.

Denise

Denise Report 14 Aug 2006 15:55

Also i would be gratefull if someone could read the 1861c RG9 / 2605 Betsy Ann Hulse living with ****man? Thanks

Elaine

Elaine Report 14 Aug 2006 15:55

presume this is the one Marriages Sep 1859 Hulse Elijah W.Derby 8b 674 Jamieson Betsey Ann W. Derby 8b 674 and the 1861 census Betsy Ann Hulse abt 1841 Hartford, Cheshire, England Wife Over Cheshire Rhoda Emily Hulse abt 1861 Over, Cheshire, England Daughter Over Cheshire - certainly looks feasible

Denise

Denise Report 14 Aug 2006 15:49

Sorry every body. Confusing people comes easy lol. Should read 1859.

Dea

Dea Report 14 Aug 2006 15:47

That's what I thought you said, but how could she have got married at AGE 8 ????? Dea x

Elaine

Elaine Report 14 Aug 2006 15:47

If she was born in 1841 - how could she have married in 1849?? Am I missing something here ??

Denise

Denise Report 14 Aug 2006 15:46

Dea, See what you mean about the dates Im cracking up ! Should be 1859, ill change it. Sorry

Denise

Denise Report 14 Aug 2006 15:44

Hi Dea, Possible marr, 1859 3rd q 8b page 647. Betsy born 1841 Hartford Cheshire. Thanks

Dea

Dea Report 14 Aug 2006 15:42

I don't understand your dates? When and where were they born and when do you think they married? Dea x

Denise

Denise Report 14 Aug 2006 15:41

Hi Sam. I have found her on 1861c RG9 2605. Again no husband listed, says married to a ******man? (cant read it) Thanks.