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TonyW

TonyW Report 14 Dec 2006 13:08

.......... and ready to start climbing the walls!! I'm looking for James Walker who was born around 1843 in Northallerton (although there were a lot of Walkers in the surrounding villages that could be classed as Northallerton) and moved up towards the Durham area, where he married Ann. I have him living in Hutton Henry, in 1871 and his son John (b c1864) is my Gt Grandfather. The census shows him as being born in 1848, but this is a transcription error as the enumeration form shows his age as 28. Sadly, he's not the James Walker b 1833 in Maunby! Then he, and the rest of the family (apart from John) dissappear - it's as if they were abducted by aliens!! I believe he was still alive in 1881 as John's marriage certificate (1883) doesn't have 'deceased' on it. This really is a brick wall, and I am praying that someone, somewhere can help......... Look forward to hearing from you - and many many thanks for trying. Tony

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 14 Dec 2006 13:09

Do you have his marriage cert? What was his occupation in 1883? Where was John born?

TonyW

TonyW Report 14 Dec 2006 13:18

I've got John's cert. He married in the reg Office Bishop Auckland in 1883. Dad shows as James who is an Agricultural Labourer. Haven't got James' marriage cert because I can't yet trace his marriage. The only one I've ruled out is it was not to Ann Dodsworth! John's birth on 1771 shows as Hutton henry, which is where they were living, but on 1901 it shows as Bishop Auckland. Thanks.......

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 14 Dec 2006 13:28

There's this one... Marriages Jun 1855 LINSLIE Ann WALKER James Easington 10a 424 Which means he should be in 1861....

TonyW

TonyW Report 14 Dec 2006 13:31

I looked at that one - but that would mean he got married when he was 12 or his age is totally wrong...... Ann Lislie was born around the right time, and in Hartlepool, which is very close to Hart. But I can't find them coming forward either!! I really appreciate this.....

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 14 Dec 2006 13:38

Looking at the information in 1871, there's a 10 year gap between James and Ann which doesn't seem right to me. I do think that either the age is wrong, or they didn't marry till late 1860s.

TonyW

TonyW Report 14 Dec 2006 13:47

His first child was born in 1862, so I would have guessed the date at around the very late 50's early 60's. However, his age....... And since I've only found him the once there is no corroborating evidence for anything. In fgact the only concrete fact I have is that his name is James and he was an agricultural labourer!! Everything else is supposition based on the 1871 census. I can only assume the family (apart from John) were together as it would be really strange for there to be a transcription error for all of them!! If only my name hadn't been Walker..........

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 14 Dec 2006 13:50

Not the easiest of names to trace lol I name you Tony Fielding :)

TonyW

TonyW Report 14 Dec 2006 14:00

Mmmmmm I think I like that......... I'll search for some Fieldings now! Do you think I'm right, that they actually were abducted by aliens, or they were poisoned by the water on their holidays in Benidorm.........

TonyW

TonyW Report 14 Dec 2006 20:57

Just wondering if anybody this evening has any inspiration.......

Unknown

Unknown Report 14 Dec 2006 21:02

Tony I have a suggestion.....one of my lot did this just vanished in to thin air......he was a miner and he went to America under a tied passage. Meaning he and the family got free passage but were tied to the coal company for 7 years after which they were free to return if they wished, my lot went back after this to Shropshire, bearing 2 children in USA then on the way home birthed my GGG Granny in Middlesex. All very confusing but I got there eventually, just a wee thought as anything was possible...good luck

TonyW

TonyW Report 14 Dec 2006 21:04

Do you know - I never even thought of that!! This is my Gt Gt grandad Walker and he's somewhere now laughing at me. I'll have an explore...... Thank you..... and keep your fingers crossed........

Unknown

Unknown Report 14 Dec 2006 21:08

I will because I know how frustrated I was and my lot were called Evans so it was no mean feat lol Taught me to keep an open mind as they walked a lot...also don't close your eyes to the Scottish census as some moved to all sorts of places to work. Good luck and make a noise if you find them so i can give you a clap XX PS passenger lists are free on Ancestrey to some at the moment

Susan

Susan Report 14 Dec 2006 21:18

1851 WALKER Thomas - 44 - born Tanfield - ag lab Jane - 40 - born Snape William - 20 - born Bellaby Margaret - 12 - born Burton Fleetham - 10 - born Burton James - 6 - born Northallerton HO107; Piece: 2378; Folio: 139; Page: 23 Aiskew

TonyW

TonyW Report 14 Dec 2006 21:33

Hi Sue, I found them and they are definite possibles - but i can't find them in later census .......... all of ythe walkers appear once and then *poooooof * they're gone!! Thanks for looking though! I'm dredging through the passenger lists (no pun intended there...) at the moment! T

Susan

Susan Report 14 Dec 2006 21:42

Heres one of them in 1861 1861 England Census about Flectham Walker Name: Flectham Walker Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Constable Burton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Ripon Ecclesiastical parish: Ripon Holy Trinity Town: Ripon County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Ripon Sub-registration district: Ripon ED, institution, or vessel: 6e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 140 Household Members: Name Age Robert Moore Bowman 39 Sarah Jane Bowman 40 Ann Brown 18 Mary Burnett 19 Thomas Slater 23 Flectham Walker 24 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3196; Folio: 115; Page: 24; GSU roll: 543094.

Susan

Susan Report 14 Dec 2006 21:43

1861 1861 England Census about Thomas Walker Name: Thomas Walker Age: 56 Estimated birth year: abt 1805 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: West Tanfield, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Exelby County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Bedale Sub-registration district: Bedale ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 62 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Walker 3 Jane Walker 51 Jane Walker 8 Thomas Walker 56 RG9; Piece: 3665; Folio: 53; Page: 11;

TonyW

TonyW Report 14 Dec 2006 21:47

Thanks again Sue. I'm going to have to spend a lot of time (and patience) looking for James, I think. The trouble is I haven't really got anything concrete to start with. I'm not convinced the details on the 1871 census are right, and there are just so many James Walkers. I really appreciate all of the help.........

TonyW

TonyW Report 14 Dec 2006 21:49

I have feeling that this is the family.....but I don't know why!!! Walker has probably been transcribed as Smith or something....

Susan

Susan Report 14 Dec 2006 22:05

Name: James Walker Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Hartlepool (1859-1938) County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 175 (click to see others on page) Name: Ann Moody Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Hartlepool (1859-1938) County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 175 (click to see others on page)