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Heather

Heather Report 17 Jan 2007 22:34

I cant believe that record can be right - I thought he was born 1837 anyway? He was 4 in the 1841. 10 years old in 1845 would take him back 2/3 more years. Are you absolutely sure it says 10 - a full grown man was lucky to be 5' 6' at that time, let alone a little kiddie. What age did it give for him at his death? I hope its not the case, but it does sound like two Freds on the go here?

Laura

Laura Report 17 Jan 2007 22:36

That's what I thought, but that's definitely what it says. I'm wondering if the form was filled in later, when he was adult and blacksmith, but he joined up at 10 as maybe an apprentice? I was using 1837 as the date from his age on the 1841 census, he's also down as 1837 on the 1891 census. It must have been before the reg started though as I can't find him on any indexes.

Heather

Heather Report 17 Jan 2007 22:47

Ive got to shoot soon, but I just looked at the 1901 - where he says born Ashcombe? He is living in Water Cottage with a gamekeeper and various others but as far as I can see, it says his occupation is postman, not an ag lab? If thats the case, then there may be a reason for him being there - may be in that someone else in that household is related and he is visiting? Have a look on there a few lines up and down to see if any names ring a bell. (Theres an Amelia a few lines up with a son called Fred - those names mean anything?) 1891 lodging with the Snell family - any connection? 1881 - here is the proof that if Grace is married to your bloke then he is a Naval Blacksmith - on the image next to her name is 'Wife of Naval Blacksmith' - crossed out, but thats just the enumerators workings.

Laura

Laura Report 17 Jan 2007 23:26

HI Heather - thanks so much for your help. Yep, sorry, 1891 he is gen lab when living with the Snell family, 1901 he is postman. Have not yet found a connection with the Snells, but the Henry Pudner who I think may be the father (uncle?) in 1891 is living with Amelia (aurelia?) white, who was originally Amelia Brown, daughter of Patience Pudner and John Brown. IN 1891 the Harveys are a couple of doors up, in one of the really early census (1841?) Susan harvey and harry pudner are with John Brown and Patience. IN 1841 Frederick is seemingly with the Harvey family in Manaton, which makes me think they are also related but not yet sure how. I don't recognise any of the other names on the census image for 1901. Thanks again, Laura

Laura

Laura Report 21 Jan 2007 20:32

nudge

Laura

Laura Report 24 Jan 2007 22:25

Have decided to maybe get the death cert - read somewhere it may have his parents names on there? or is this only for children who die young? I've emailed a few members on here who I know have the Ashcombe Pudner lot in their trees, but unfortunately no reply as yet. Fingers crossed eh?! I'm 99% certain he's linked to them, I just need to try and find out how! Still not sure if Harry is his dad.... groan Laura

Heather

Heather Report 25 Jan 2007 11:00

Just to add, if he is a postman, then he would have probably got a pension from them with details of family etc on it? You could try the Royal Mail museum. Its online and last time I contacted them they were thinking of doing a look up service. No good for me as my bloke died 6 months before their pension schme started! Sods law

Laura

Laura Report 25 Jan 2007 20:22

typical! lol Thanks Heather, will have a look online and maybe email them to see if this service is available yet. He didn't die till 1921 so could have had a few years with them Thanks again Laura