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He's still a schoolmaster for the Workhouse - on the index as John J Beckford

Looking at the 1851 image I think it gives Emma's age as 43, William 13, George 12, Samuel 9, Frances 5 and John 3.

Just realised, haven't got John in 1871 either. He didn't die until 1879 so should be somewhere to be found !!

Thankyou all very much for your help !! Yous are fantastic!! Much appreciated. Marie xxx

do yous think it is likely that they have split up or just living apart for other reasons ?

1861 possible for John junior Name: John Beckford Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Tandon, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Westmill County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Royston Sub-registration district: Buntingford ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Emma Beckford 20 daughter George Beckford 22 son-in-law George W Beckford 8 John Beckford 14 George Clinton 37 Lucy Clinton 15 Sarah Clinton 60 So you will need to find a possible marriage for George Beckford to Emma Clinton to verify this Maureen

Jeanette, Thanks for checking the 1851 image for Emma as she seemed a bit too old to have Frances and John as her children. Marie, John probably had to live in at the school - possibly permanent or at least some night. 1861 - possible as Fanny is another name for Frances Name: Fanny Beckford Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Handon, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Ware Town: Ware County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Ware Sub-registration district: Ware ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 5

sorry i want answers to everything tonight !! I just wonder sometimes how to find out this type of stuff !

excellent thanks. I found a death for emma in ware, standon in 1860.

Possible death for Emma Name: Emma Beckford Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Ware County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 113 Maureen

1851 Emma is 43 not 63 Jeanette

1841 John and Emma are living in Standon Street. 1851 Emma and kids are living in Standon Street Maureen

i'm confused...how could emma be 63 in 1851 ? surely she should be 50 if born 1811 same as John ?

not sure about emma, all i know is that john is a widower in 1861 so it must have been before then. I'm gonna go look for a death for her now. Thankyou all very much for your help so far. xx

Perhaps the family I posted for 1851 is wrong. When and where did Emma die? The ages on the 1841 census are rounded so the ages given could be out by quite a bit. Maureen

does the 1851 census show who he is a servant for ? Do yous think its strange for him to go from servant to schoolmaster ?

Sorry, approx year of birth is 1811 and children that I know of are william, george, samuel, frances and john.

Marie, John is shown on image as school master but would probably be classed as servant as he is not head of household. Mauren

the one glitter babe found is school master of union and is married looking on image it looks like Beckford though there is a dot which makes it look like there is a i there Jeanette

1851 I think this is the rest of family Name: William Beckford Age: 63 (on image is 13) Estimated birth year: abt 1788 Relation: Son Mother's name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Standon, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Standon County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Ware Sub-registration district: Hoddesdon ED, institution, or vessel: 3d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Emma Beckford 63 Frances Beckford 5 George Beckford 12 John Beckford 3 Samuel Beckford 19 Emma is shown as married