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Help please finding John Beckford in 1841/1851

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Marie

Marie Report 8 Mar 2007 19:25

Hi Can anyone please look up John Beckford for me in 1841 and 1851. I can't find him on either census return. I have him in 1861 in the Ware workhouse as a School Master. Think his middle name is Gilbert. He was marrie to Emma and had approx 5/6 kids. He is a widower in 1861. Thanks in advance. Marie xx

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 8 Mar 2007 19:28

what is his year of birth and county born? Jeanette

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Mar 2007 19:29

1861 is this him? Name: John G Beckford Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relation: Scheal Marton Gender: Male Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Ware County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Ware Sub-registration district: Ware ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 221

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 8 Mar 2007 19:36

1841 could this be him? Emma Beckford abt 1811 Standon Hertfordshire View Record George Beckford abt 1840 Hertfordshire, England Standon Hertfordshire View Record John Beckford abt 1811 Standon Hertfordshire View Record Samuel Beckford abt 1841 Hertfordshire, England Standon Hertfordshire View Record William Beckford abt 1837 Hertfordshire, England Standon Hertfordshire View Record Hannah Perry abt 1801 Hertfordshire, England Standon Hertfordshire View Record Susan Perry abt 1766 Hertfordshire, England Standon Hertfordshire View Record Edward Singleton abt 1771 Hertfordshire, England Standon Hertfordshire he is a school master

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Mar 2007 19:38

1851 possible Name: John Gilbert Beckfield Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1810 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Holborn, London, England Civil parish: Ware Town: Ware County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Ware Sub-registration district: Hoddesdon ED, institution, or vessel: 5k Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Image looks like Beckford Occupation of school master of the union Think it shows him as married

Marie

Marie Report 8 Mar 2007 19:43

that definitely looks like the family in 1841 ! thankyou v.much x

Marie

Marie Report 8 Mar 2007 19:44

and 1851 !!

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Mar 2007 19:45

Can you give some more information on the kids which would help with finding the family Maureen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Mar 2007 19:48

1851 I think this is the rest of family Name: William Beckford Age: 63 (on image is 13) Estimated birth year: abt 1788 Relation: Son Mother's name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Standon, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Standon County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Ware Sub-registration district: Hoddesdon ED, institution, or vessel: 3d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Emma Beckford 63 Frances Beckford 5 George Beckford 12 John Beckford 3 Samuel Beckford 19 Emma is shown as married

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 8 Mar 2007 19:48

the one glitter babe found is school master of union and is married looking on image it looks like Beckford though there is a dot which makes it look like there is a i there Jeanette

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Mar 2007 19:50

Marie, John is shown on image as school master but would probably be classed as servant as he is not head of household. Mauren

Marie

Marie Report 8 Mar 2007 19:52

Sorry, approx year of birth is 1811 and children that I know of are william, george, samuel, frances and john.

Marie

Marie Report 8 Mar 2007 19:55

does the 1851 census show who he is a servant for ? Do yous think its strange for him to go from servant to schoolmaster ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Mar 2007 20:01

Perhaps the family I posted for 1851 is wrong. When and where did Emma die? The ages on the 1841 census are rounded so the ages given could be out by quite a bit. Maureen

Marie

Marie Report 8 Mar 2007 20:03

not sure about emma, all i know is that john is a widower in 1861 so it must have been before then. I'm gonna go look for a death for her now. Thankyou all very much for your help so far. xx

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Mar 2007 20:07

1841 John and Emma are living in Standon Street. 1851 Emma and kids are living in Standon Street Maureen

Marie

Marie Report 8 Mar 2007 20:07

i'm confused...how could emma be 63 in 1851 ? surely she should be 50 if born 1811 same as John ?

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 8 Mar 2007 20:09

1851 Emma is 43 not 63 Jeanette

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Mar 2007 20:10

Possible death for Emma Name: Emma Beckford Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Ware County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 113 Maureen

Marie

Marie Report 8 Mar 2007 20:10

excellent thanks. I found a death for emma in ware, standon in 1860.