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TEPPER - 1850's London & Newport Pagnell.

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Anthony

Anthony Report 9 Aug 2013 05:02

Looking for relatives of the sons of David Solomon TEPPER originally from Greenwich UK. That is
JOSEPH ELEAZER TEPPER Bn 1854 (My Great Grand Father)
DAVID GERSHON TEPPER Bn 1846
William Henry TEPPER Bn 1851

Wish to exchange details of David Solomon, family history and seek knowledge of his parents and ancestors, that is early 1800's which are not evident from searches.
Tony Tepper

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Aug 2013 08:19

Look in Search Trees to see if anyone has them in their tree .you can then exchange info through the find out more facility

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Aug 2013 08:22

Name: Joseph Elizer Tepper
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 8 Apr 1845
Father's Name: David Solomon Tepper
Mother's Name: Emma Tepper
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich St Alphege
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Parish Registers

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Aug 2013 08:28

1851 census

Name: David Tepper
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Grandson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Chipping Barnet
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Barnet
Sub-registration District: South Mimms
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 137
Piece: 1701
Folio: 217
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Hawes 62
Joseph Tepper 6
David Tepper 4

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1701; Folio: 217; Page: 34; GSU roll: 193609.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Aug 2013 08:31

Name: David Tepper
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1841
Registration District: City of London
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 69
Records on Page:
Name
Emma Hawes
David Tepper

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Aug 2013 10:19

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

https://familysearch.org/

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Aug 2013 10:21

Who was the mother?

Penny

Penny Report 9 Aug 2013 10:22

1851 for ref


Name:Joseph Tepper

Age:6

Estimated Birth Year: 1845

Relation:Grandson

Gender:M (Male)

Where born:Greenwich, Kent, England



Civil Parish:Chipping Barnet

County/Island:Middlesex

Country England

Registration District:Barnet

Sub-registration District:South Mimms

ED, institution, or vessel:2a



Household Schedule Number:137

Piece:1701

Folio:217

Page Number:34



Name Age

Sarah Hawes 62
Joseph Tepper 6
David Tepper 4
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Name:
David Tepper

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1841
Registration District:City of London
Inferred County:London
Volume Number:2
Page Number: 69


Emma Hawes
David Tepper


Fathers names will be o the cert- but you'll have to send for it

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Aug 2013 10:24

Buy this marriage cert...........for father's name...........and David's declared age

Marriages Dec 1841 (>99%)
HAWES Emma London 2 69
TEPPER David London 2 69

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Aug 2013 10:28

Buy this marriage cert...........for father's name...and David's declared age

Marriages Dec 1841 (>99%)
HAWES Emma London 2 69 Scan available - click to view
TEPPER David London 2 69

Penny

Penny Report 9 Aug 2013 10:33

https://familysearch.org/search/records#count=25&query=%2Bsurname:tepper~ %2Bbatch_number:P015221

not sure where Newport Pagnell comes in



Marriages Mar 1851
Tepper George Henry Newport 6 495
Warr Maria Newport P 6 495


her family 1841
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 58; Book: 4; Civil Parish: Newport Pagnell; County: Buckinghamshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 9; Page: 12; Line: 3; GSU roll: 241218.

Anthony

Anthony Report 9 Aug 2013 13:29

Thank you Reg and Shirley for your feedback-
The Tepper family appears to have children born in Greenwich -Joseph, David and Miriam. Then later in Newport Pagnell, that is William Henry Tepper and two other children that appear to have died near birth Frederick John and Maria Louisa Tepper.
This is knowledge within the family and records and your reply show their births.
I am trying to get the earlier details.location and dates for David Solomon Tepper. (their father) and his parents. This is around 1800 to 1835 .

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Aug 2013 15:21

try Family Search site for parish records

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Aug 2013 15:27

The marriage cert to Emma Hawes should give his dads name

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Aug 2013 15:29

so his dad looks to be an Isaac Tepper

name: David Topper
[David Tepper]
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Emma Hawes
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Dec 1842
Parish: All Hallows Lombard Street
Borough: City of London
Father Name: Isaac Topper
Spouse Father Name: Robert Hawes
Register Type: Parish Register

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Aug 2013 15:59

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/cemetery.php?cemetery=615&limit=301

(Tepper George H and others on above, if relating)

Chris :)

Astra

Astra Report 9 Aug 2013 16:37

William Henry Tepper was born in Buckinghamshire and is the son of George Tepper and Maria.

1911 census transcription details for: Victoria Road Barnstaple

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN13325 RG78PN772 RD284 SD1 ED9 SN21
Reg. District: Barnstaple
Sub District: Barnstaple
Parish: Barnstaple
Enum. District: 9
Address: Victoria Road Barnstaple
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
TEPPER, William Henry Head Married M 59 1852 Solicitor's Clerk Bucks Newport Pagnell
TEPPER, Harriet Elizabeth Wife Married
28 years F 56 1855 Bucks Newport Pagnell
TEPPER, Harriet Ware Daughter Single F 27 1884 No Occupation Bucks Newport Pagnell
TEPPER, Rosa Emily Sister Single F 19 1892 No Occupation Devon Bideton


Name: William Henry Tepper
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 19 Dec 1851
Christening Place: NEWPORT PAGNELL,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND
Father's Name: George Henry Tepper
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P01522-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 88489

1861 census transcription details for: Quay, Bideford

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 1502
Folio: 63
Page: 4
Reg. District: Bideford
Sub District: 1 Bideford
Parish: Bideford
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Bideford
Address: Quay, Bideford
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
TIPPER, George H Head Married M 49 1812 Schoolmaster
London, N K
TIPPER, Meria Wife Married F 37 1824
Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire
TIPPER, William H Son Unmarried M 9 1852
Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire
TIPPER, Louisa J Daughter Unmarried F 3 1858
Bideford, Devon
PARSONS, James Boarder Unmarried M 15 1846 Scholar
London, N K

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 9 Aug 2013 19:06

Name: Solomon David Tepper
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Oct 1841
Father's Name: Isaac Tepper
Mother's Name: Salde Tepper
Parish or Poor Law Union: South Mimms St Giles
Borough: South Mimms
Register Type: Parish Registers

.............................maybe an adult baptism prior to marriage ???

Name: Sarah Tepper
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Dec 1826
Father's Name: James Isaac Tepper
Mother's Name: Sarah Tepper
Parish or Poor Law Union: Horselydown St John
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

Anthony

Anthony Report 11 Aug 2013 04:07

Well done everyone - your dexterity with the records is impressive. It would seem we are converging to the limit of the databases? From the details two aspect have arisen that put in doubt some of the early 19th century oral history of my family.
I would be interested in any feedback & subsequent investigations to the above.

1/ Were David Solomon Tepper (my direct relative) and George Henry Tepper brothers as our family oral history suggests. That is, Isaac Tepper was DS's father but was he GH's father? I haven't seen a record of GH's fathers name?
(May be GH and Newport Pagnell Tepper's have nothing to do with my line?)

2/ You will note that my direct line relatives all have biblical first names i.e. Isaac, David Solomon, Joseph Eliezer, etc. By reference to the 1841 Parish record for JE's baptism this shows David Solomon's work was "Teacher of Hebrew". From this and the range of first names we thought we may find a Jewish background and yet there is continual evidence of the family being baptised as C of E. Any ideas how to clarify these directions?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Aug 2013 08:23

Deaths Sep 1849 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------
Tepper Emma Chesterton 14 25

(Burial, St. Andrew, Chesterton, Cambridge. 1849 11 July otp 25)

(wondering if Emma, any idea what happened to her husband?, or any knowledge of a Daughter Sarah Emma)

Chris :)