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Looking for James Craney born Liverpool 1847 married to Johanna Power /Cross born 1845/7 Waterford I have there marriage 1882 and I have them on the census up till 1901 then they disapear no death records nothing.
There son my great grandfather Alexander born 1870 liverpool married Sarah Ann Parr in 1891 can not find these on 1911 census ,Sarah Ann Died 1898 Alexander in 1929 any help please. Peter

is this them on the 1901?

Name: James Craney
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Johanna Craney
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 343
Piece: 3408
Folio: 30
Page Number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
James Craney 49
Johanna Craney 49
Alexander Craney 30
James Craney 26
Johanna Craney 9
William Craney 5
William Craney 4
Hugh Fitzgerald 34

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3408; Folio: 30; Page: 51.


Alexander is shown as married but no wife shown Are the younger children in fact Alexanders's they are listed as children of James & Johanna ??

marraige for reference

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about James Craney
Name: James Craney
Birth Year: abt 1852
Age: 30
Marriage Date: 2 Dec 1882
Parish: Liverpool St Martin-in-the-Fields
Spouse's Name: Johanna Power
Father's Name: Alexander Craney
Spouse Father's Name: John Power

Yes thats them Shirley

alexaners marraige ??

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Alexander Craney
Name: Alexander Craney
Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 34
Marriage Date: 11 Aug 1902
Parish: Liverpool St Nicholas
Spouse's Name: Christina Fallon
Father's Name: James Craney
Spouse Father's Name: Patrick Kelly

Alexander marraige July 19th 1891 to Sarah Ann Parr,ST.Nicholas Liverpool.

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Name: William Craney
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bootle, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Huyton with Roby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: School
Registration district: Prescot
Registration District Number: 456
Sub-registration district: Prescot
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 22754


Its St Edwards School for Roman Catholic children, Thingwall near Liverpool

wonder if Johanna is being called Annie

1911

Name: Annie Craney
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool
Civil parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 42 Harrogate St Everton
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: General Servant (Domestic)
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 22522
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Tyrer 52
Cristania Tyrer 51
Henry Tyrer 22
Thomas Tyrer 15
Charlotte Tyrer 12
Annie Craney 18

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 22522.

I dont think that William is mine Shirley he was c of e and he was born in liverpool 1896 and Maddie I will have to look at that marraige as Alexanders wife died 1898 now you've got me thinking.

My main concern is that everyone has to have a death record but I can not find them for James or Johanna puzzle?

Peter I have some too that i haven't been able to find death certs for One born in 1852 and still alive in 1911 I still cant find . :-(

Theres 2 William Craney's on the 1901 so he could be the younger one aged 4

Its so frustrating Shirley I know ,I have even searched ships records thinking they may have moved abroard

My William was born William James Craney July 26th 1896 my mothers Father.

Not sure if this is his Army Record on Ancestry
Name: William James Craney
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age at enlistment: 19
Residence: 97, Everton Ter, Lpool
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 29938
Regiment Name: Cheshire
Number of images: 11

next of kin is given as Alexandra!! Craney father of 91 Everton Ter. and someone has crossed out father and put sister ,maybe because of the spelling ???

a tree on ancestry only has them upto 1901 and no deaths shown
maddie

Name: William James Craney
Birth Year: abt 1898
Age: 23
Marriage Date: 29 Jan 1921
Parish: Everton St George
Spouse's Name: Ann Carruthers
Father's Name: Alexander Craney
Spouse Father's Name: Richard Carruthers

adress for both 45 Havelock Street Alexander is down as a Carter


do you have the cert ? if not I can download it and send it to you by email if you PM me the email address

Thanks Shirley I did not have that record something I can look into and That maybe my record on ancestry Maddie

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Name: Annie Tyrer widow
Birth Year: abt 1893
Age: 26
Marriage Date: 28 Apr 1919
Parish: Everton St George
Spouse's Name: George Henry Howes
Father's Name: Alexander Craney occ carter
Spouse Father's Name: William Benjamin Howes

same address 45 Havelock Street


if you want this one too !!! :-D

Marriages Sep 1911
Craney Annie West Derby 8b 1022
Tyrer Henry G West Derby 8b 1022


so think this may well be Johanna the daughter