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I am having trouble reading a surname on the Ancestry 1841 Census.
HO/107/1144/7 Her christian name is Mary and she is 5. Other people are Thomas Elliott 55
Charlotte 50
William 20
Thomas 15
George 14
Mary does not show up when I click view record.
I also can't fathom William's occupation.
I would really appreciate any help.

Thank you Chris

Just to clarify:

1841 England Census

Name: Thomas Elliott
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Paul

Thomas Elliott 55
Charllott Elliott 50
William Elliott 20
Thomas Elliott 15
George Elliott 14

Mary Handcocks??

This is the transcriber's version!

1841 England Census

Name: Mary Handweks
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Paul

Mary Handweks 5

Thank you Brummiejan, I did think handcocks could be hancock.

Incidentally after I posted my query I stayed on line to respond straight away to a reply and my query sayed at 'one minute ago' with no replies. So I decided to log out and back in again and saw your very prompt reply. I did not know you had to log out to refresh the query.
Thank you for your help
Chris

Yes, replies don't show up unless you leave!
Handcock/cocks/cox etc. will be interchangeable. (I have Willcox in my family which is the same!) Unfortunately all born out of county so difficult to trace after this census.
Jan

Haven't a clue about William's occupation by the way! Looking at the page the enumerator has used a lot of letters and abbreviations,curse him. Have put out a plea for more help.
Jan

Many thanks for all the help, I never knew you had to leave to read replies.
Chris

You don't have to leave, just click F5 to refresh the page.

from FMP

1841 census - household transcription
Person: ELLIOTT, Thomas
Address: Bread Street, Birmingham

Name Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

ELLIOTT, Thomas M 55 1786
ELLIOTT, Charllote F 50 1791
ELLIOTT, William M 20 1821
ELLIOTT, Thomas M 15 1826
ELLIOTT, George M 14 1827
HANDCOCKS, Mary F 5 1836

I didn't know you had to leave or refresh the page - since when? Or do you mean you just have to "get away" from your thread, which I usually do by looking at another one.

looking at 1841 census original; William's occupation, possibly S Water M

looking at 1851 census for possibles

ELLIOTT, William Lodger Unmarried M 26 1825 Watch Finisher Journeyman Coventry Warwickshire

ELLIOTT, William Head Married M 29 1822 Ribbon Weaver Bedworth Warwickshire

ELLIOTT, William Head Married M 25 1826 Button Manager Birmingham Warwickshire

ELLIOTT, William Lodger Married M 27 1824 Traveller N K

edit>>>>>wonder if he's the first one and it's supposed to be something like S (silver??) watch maker on the 1841

The Hancocks theory was correct I looked for a baptism on the IGI and found her as Mary Charlotte Elliott Hancocks! Father Joseph Hancocks and Mary. What a can of worms. Thank you tempest for looking at the 51.
Chris

I read 1841 occupation of Thomas as... S smith ( silversmith maybe ?) and William as ? key M (maker ?)

Gwyn

The Father is 'S'smith' silver smith, so I think William is either S maker or S beater

which ties in with the watch finisher of 1851

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1851 England Census
Name: Mary Hancox
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Hancox
Mother's name: Mary Hancox
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 36 Court, 7 House, Livery Street

Occupation: Nurse

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Paul
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Hancox 42 - Bricklayers lab; West Bromwich
Mary Hancox 38 - Seamstress; Sheffield, Yorkshire
Mary Hancox 15
Thomas Hancox 13 - Brass Founder;
William Hancox 12 - Errand Boy
John Hancox 8 - Button Shanker
Elizah Hancox 6 - Scholar
Lucy Hancox 2

All children born West Bromwich except for Lucy born Birmingham.


No Mary.
1841 England Census
Name: Joseph Hancocks
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1809
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Walsall St

Occupation: Nailer

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Hancocks 32
Mary Hancocks 28
Thomas Hancocks 3
William Hancocks 1

On 1841 the Elliots are NOT born in the county of Warwickshire.

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record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Joseph Hancocks
bride's name: Mary Elliott
marriage date: 30 Mar 1835
marriage place: Saint Marys,Handsworth,Stafford,England
indexing project (batch) number: M09867-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 426556

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record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Mary Shepherd Elliott
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 10 Jul 1812
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date: 16 Jan 1812
father's name: Thomas Elliott
mother's name: Charlotte Maria
indexing project (batch) number: C15052-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919327

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Charlotte Maria Elliott
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 01 Jun 1808
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date: 13 May 1808
father's name: Thomas Elliott
mother's name: Charlotte Maria
indexing project (batch) number: C15052-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919327




record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Louisa Elliott
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 11 Feb 1810
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date: 01 Jan 1810
father's name: Thomas Elliott
mother's name: Charlotte Maria
indexing project (batch) number: C15052-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919327



record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Willm. Shepherd Elliott
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 Nov 1813
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: Thos. Elliott
mother's name: Charlotte Maria
indexing project (batch) number: C00775-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919362



record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Edward Elliott
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Aug 1815
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: Thos. Elliott
mother's name: Charlotte Maria
indexing project (batch) number: C00775-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919362

Deaths Dec 1867
Elliott Charlotte Maria 79 Birmingham 6d 56

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record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Thomas Elliott
bride's name: Charlotte Maria Long
marriage date: 29 Jun 1807
marriage place: Saint Martin In The Fields,Westminster,London,England
indexing project (batch) number: M00145-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 561162