Genealogy Chat

Yes it was this thread, thanks folks! Glad the mystery is solved. (Now, if you lot could only solve my little Amy Hand mystery...)

Many thanks for the overwhelming replies. Charlotte and Tomas Elliott are mine and with your help with deciphering Mary age 5 surname. I have done some work and ascertained she is their grand daughter. Father Joeseph Hancox mother Mary Elliott. Thank you all again, and for help with occupation.

Chris

Yes, it is, but a lot more has been added since then.

Ozi

This is the thread Brummiejan was talking about I think.

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record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Thomas Elliott
bride's name: Charlotte Maria Long
marriage date: 29 Jun 1807
marriage place: Saint Martin In The Fields,Westminster,London,England
indexing project (batch) number: M00145-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 561162

Deaths Dec 1867
Elliott Charlotte Maria 79 Birmingham 6d 56

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Charlotte Maria Elliott
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 01 Jun 1808
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date: 13 May 1808
father's name: Thomas Elliott
mother's name: Charlotte Maria
indexing project (batch) number: C15052-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919327




record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Louisa Elliott
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 11 Feb 1810
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date: 01 Jan 1810
father's name: Thomas Elliott
mother's name: Charlotte Maria
indexing project (batch) number: C15052-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919327



record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Willm. Shepherd Elliott
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 Nov 1813
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: Thos. Elliott
mother's name: Charlotte Maria
indexing project (batch) number: C00775-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919362



record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Edward Elliott
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Aug 1815
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: Thos. Elliott
mother's name: Charlotte Maria
indexing project (batch) number: C00775-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919362

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record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Mary Shepherd Elliott
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 10 Jul 1812
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date: 16 Jan 1812
father's name: Thomas Elliott
mother's name: Charlotte Maria
indexing project (batch) number: C15052-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919327

On 1841 the Elliots are NOT born in the county of Warwickshire.

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record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Joseph Hancocks
bride's name: Mary Elliott
marriage date: 30 Mar 1835
marriage place: Saint Marys,Handsworth,Stafford,England
indexing project (batch) number: M09867-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 426556

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1851 England Census
Name: Mary Hancox
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Hancox
Mother's name: Mary Hancox
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 36 Court, 7 House, Livery Street

Occupation: Nurse

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Paul
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Hancox 42 - Bricklayers lab; West Bromwich
Mary Hancox 38 - Seamstress; Sheffield, Yorkshire
Mary Hancox 15
Thomas Hancox 13 - Brass Founder;
William Hancox 12 - Errand Boy
John Hancox 8 - Button Shanker
Elizah Hancox 6 - Scholar
Lucy Hancox 2

All children born West Bromwich except for Lucy born Birmingham.


No Mary.
1841 England Census
Name: Joseph Hancocks
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1809
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Walsall St

Occupation: Nailer

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Hancocks 32
Mary Hancocks 28
Thomas Hancocks 3
William Hancocks 1

The Father is 'S'smith' silver smith, so I think William is either S maker or S beater

which ties in with the watch finisher of 1851

I read 1841 occupation of Thomas as... S smith ( silversmith maybe ?) and William as ? key M (maker ?)

Gwyn

The Hancocks theory was correct I looked for a baptism on the IGI and found her as Mary Charlotte Elliott Hancocks! Father Joseph Hancocks and Mary. What a can of worms. Thank you tempest for looking at the 51.
Chris

looking at 1841 census original; William's occupation, possibly S Water M

looking at 1851 census for possibles

ELLIOTT, William Lodger Unmarried M 26 1825 Watch Finisher Journeyman Coventry Warwickshire

ELLIOTT, William Head Married M 29 1822 Ribbon Weaver Bedworth Warwickshire

ELLIOTT, William Head Married M 25 1826 Button Manager Birmingham Warwickshire

ELLIOTT, William Lodger Married M 27 1824 Traveller N K

edit>>>>>wonder if he's the first one and it's supposed to be something like S (silver??) watch maker on the 1841

I didn't know you had to leave or refresh the page - since when? Or do you mean you just have to "get away" from your thread, which I usually do by looking at another one.

from FMP

1841 census - household transcription
Person: ELLIOTT, Thomas
Address: Bread Street, Birmingham

Name Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

ELLIOTT, Thomas M 55 1786
ELLIOTT, Charllote F 50 1791
ELLIOTT, William M 20 1821
ELLIOTT, Thomas M 15 1826
ELLIOTT, George M 14 1827
HANDCOCKS, Mary F 5 1836

You don't have to leave, just click F5 to refresh the page.

Many thanks for all the help, I never knew you had to leave to read replies.
Chris

Haven't a clue about William's occupation by the way! Looking at the page the enumerator has used a lot of letters and abbreviations,curse him. Have put out a plea for more help.
Jan

Yes, replies don't show up unless you leave!
Handcock/cocks/cox etc. will be interchangeable. (I have Willcox in my family which is the same!) Unfortunately all born out of county so difficult to trace after this census.
Jan