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Hibernian

Hibernian Report 19 Jun 2009 19:40

Eileen

Is this the census record you are using when referring to Hugh Larkin, married to Sarah and their oldest child, Michael, born 1861 in Ireland?

This is the 1881 census for Kimberworth in Yorkshire.

On this same census (1881) Sarah's age is listed as 40 and Michael's as 20 which ties in with you advising us that Michael was born in 1861.

Name: Hugh Larkin
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Kimberworth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Orchard Yard
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Quarry Lab

Registration district: Rotherham
Sub-registration district: Kimberworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh Larkin 50
Sarah Larkin 40
Michael Larkin 20
Thomas Larkin 18
Edward Larkin 16
Mary Larkin 14
Margaret Larkin 8
John Larkin 12

See my next post for more information.

Hibernian

Hibernian Report 19 Jun 2009 19:49

Eileen

My second post as follows......

Here is 'a' Larkin family on the 1871 census where the parents are Hugh and Sarah with son Michael aged 11. I'm NOT suggesting its the same family.

The parents' ages are different and there are two children older than Michael on this census.

Also, the children's names do NOT tie in between the two census records so I am just asking whether this might be the same family. Note that children in Irish families get called different names than their birth names, sometimes called by their second Christian names or nicknames.

This census is also in Kimberworth which seems a bit of a coincidence.

I just want to get a feel for the family we are looking for and I will take a look at the Irish records for you.

If these are completely wrong census records I will delete from the thread to stop confusion.

Name: Hugh Larkin
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Kimberworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Masbrough St John
Town: Masbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Rotherham
Sub-registration district: Kimberworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh Larkin 45
Sarah Larkin 49
Kate Larkin 15
Sarah Larkin 13
Michael Larkin 11
Sam Larkin 7
Edward Larkin 5
Lanny Larkin 10 months
Polly Larkin 3

Eileen

Eileen Report 19 Jun 2009 21:25

Hibernian.

Yes those are the censuses i am working from. The 1871 census is right as my grandmother was born that that address in1872. but that census only Hugh and Sarah were born in Ireland, and the children in England.

The 1881 census which i think is the same family allowing for the ages being transcribed wrongly. It states Hugh,Sarah and son Michael born in Ireland.

Eileen

Hibernian

Hibernian Report 19 Jun 2009 22:29

I can see from the 1881 where you get the Ireland birth for Michael.

However, in your original posts you suggested that the parents married about 1860.

If you are thinking that the 1871 census is possibly correct, then there are two children older than Michael, named Kate and Sarah. On the 1871, it states that all the children, including these two older children (as well as Michael) were born in Masbro. Masbro and Kimberworth all fall under the Rotherham registration district.

It's best to try and get these facts confirmed first, i.e. both the 1871 and 1881 census records are definitely for the same family and also try and confirm exactly where all the children were born. I would also include trying to match up the names of the children from the two census records.

The Irish records aren't particularly user friendly so getting as much of the English records closed off first might be the best move.

Do you have any of the family on the 1891 census?

There are two deaths under Rotherham registration district:

Deaths Jun 1888 (>99%)
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LARKIN Sarah 55 Rotherham 9c 370

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Deaths Dec 1890 (>99%)
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Larkin Hugh 67 Rotherham 9c 421


These might be the parents. Age of death seems to be a good match to the ages on the census records. Births calculated from age at death are:

Hugh born circa 1823
Sarah born circa 1833

Marriage perhaps in 1853/1854/1855 with Kate born in 1856. All of the above is pure speculation and relies on both census records being correct and both death records being the parents.

Do you have their deaths already?