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but John F Dunn married this annie in scotland in 1891

and John divorced eliza in 1893

so it looks like John Dunn went first then she divorced him or am I getting muddled?

He divorced her - siting adultery with William Gill (Gee), so it could be worth having a look at the records held by National Archives - could give dates and more details.

Not sure what to think of his 1891 marriage in Scotland though?

what marriage in Scotland - have I missed something ?

the scotland one is the right name, the right age and even is profession which is not a common one.

I will buy mables birth cert, it should be interesting,

dont know whether to say poor John or poor Eliza at the moment, but will say thankyou everyone

sorry the scottish marriage is on the 1891 census the lady was from aberdeenshire think its on previous page.

good research and hard work everyone but much appreciated

So you haven't actually found a marriage for them in Scotland?

flip no its just on the 1891 census him saying he is married and living with this woman who says married.

theres no one else living there, maybe we should check

Don't think they would have actually been married - just saving face!

Have you tried to find Eliza & family on 1911 census?

no I havent flip, she married william Gee in 1899 so she should be with him, and the other children she had, cant remember their years of birth, but they were Richard Gee, Harry Gee, and Percy Gee, I think.

william and eliza did stay together till the end.

didnt occur to me the scotlands one may have just been saving face.

1911


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GEE, John William Head Married M 42 1869 Bricklayer Labourer Yorkshire Lund VIEW
GEE, Elize Anne Wife Married
12 years F 42 1869 Yorkshire Middleton on the Wold VIEW
DUNN, Vernon Son Single M 17 1894 Bricklayers Labourer Yorkshire Middleton VIEW
DUNN, Mabel Anne Daughter Single F 11 1900 Yorkshire Middleton VIEW
GEE, Harry Son M 12 1899 Yorkshire Middleton VIEW
GEE, Richard Son M 11 1900 Yorkshire Middleton VIEW
GEE, Percy Son M 7 1904 Yorkshire Middleton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28871 Reference:
RG14PN28871 RG78PN1660 RD525 SD3 ED2 SN64

Registration District:
Driffield Sub District:
Bainton Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Middleton on the Wolds

Address:
Middleton on the Wolds Driffield Yorkshire County:
Yorkshire (East riding)


says 7 children born, 5 still living - this has been crossed through and replaced with 3 children born and 3 still living

Percy Gee
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1904
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Yorkshire Middleton
Nationality British
Enumerator Information
Address Middleton On The Wolds Driffield Yorkshire
Parish Middleton On The Wolds
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 6
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN28871 RG78PN1660 RD525 SD3 ED2 SN64
Administrative County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Registration District Driffield
Registration Sub District Bainton
Enumeration District 2

John William Gee 42 bricklayer labourer born Lund
Eliza Anne 42 Middleton
Vernon Dunn 17
Mabel Anne 14
Harry Gee 12
Richard Gee 11
Percy Gee 7

all children born Middleton. Original states Eliza married 12 years, 3 children all living. But, this originally said 7 children, 2 have died.

thought you'd actually found a marriage in Scotland !

thanks for that 1911 census, yes thats them, my husbands grandad was percy gee.

you can see the confusion with the children , some being dunn and some being gee and yet their years of birth.

two had died?? wonder if she has just written off elsie may?

I know this is taking up so much of your time, but we do appreciate it

John Gee
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1869
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation Farm Servant
Address Farm House, South Street
District Driffield, Bainton
Parish Middleton
Administrative County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Birth Place Lund
Birth County Yorkshire

Name on original is John William Gee, so it doesn't look like he was previously married.

Note the street address - same street as Eliza & her parents in 1891 census!

ah yes thanks for that, love thy neighbour.

I could be wrong, and I dont know what census it was on, but when I originally found this I thought it said mable and vernon step dau and step son. But it was years ago I found that.

I will buy their birth certs, but if John william Gee wasnt present when mable or vernon were registered it will just give a dash where father is wont it? and then I suppose we will never know for certain.

It did say step-son & step-daughter on one of the census, not sure whether it was 1901 or 1911 though.

You may never know their parentage for certain, even with a birth cert. If the mother was married, she could have registered her husband as the father without his presence. Think, going by the birth dates though it was unlikely to be John Dunn though.

yes I would say so.

an amazing saturday mornings journey.

thanks to everyone xxx

Another thought - we are assuming William Gill mentioned in the divorce is the same person as John William Gee, could they be different people?

Hi

interesting thought flip, but apparently the village consists of about eight houses, I think its still him, but to be fair to eliza her husband was never there and living with another woman at one point.

would John William Gee really call mable and vernon step children if they were his? goodness knows, when the births certs arrive we still wont know only DNA could tell us that one. thanks

Ive put a thankyou on the success boards for you all, so kind of strangers to spend so much of their time to help. thanks once again