Find Ancestors

ok thanks for your help.

Nicola :)

No sorry i dont.

marriage cert. may also give their age.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content £7 using index details.Hope that helps. I will keep looking for them

Thank you janice.

cheers Nicola

Possible death index!
Name: John Hillyard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 51
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 303

possible marriage for Mary ann?
Name: Mary Ann Hillyard
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 952
others on page
Herbert Ingham ,
Edward Kelly,
Eleanor Pickersgill .

cannot find either of them in Leeds area in 1901 census though

Thank you again janice for taking the time to look for info. im very grateful.

Cheers Nicola

Hi Janice could you possilbly look up emma place born around 1851 i think she might be on 1871 census in nottingham. thanks Nicola

COULD BE A COUPLE OF POSSIBLES IN 1871
that i have found birth range 1850-1854
Name: Emma Place
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: St Peter
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Name: Elizabeth Place
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: St Peter
Name: Elizabeth Murden
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Widmerpool, Nottinghamshire, England
Name: Thomas Murden
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: St Peter
OR
Name: Emma E Place
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Basford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Name: Caroline Bolton
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Wiseton, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Basford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Household Members: Name Age
Harriett Blatherwick 23
Caroline Bolton 45
John Lansdale 17
Emma Parker 23
Caroline M Place 16
Emma E Place 18
Fanny Walton 17
I have been thinking about your family,do you think the marriage for Mary Ann is right? do you know her married name /if so then i think you might want to start with getting her marriage cert. it might shed some light as to where they could be in 1901 census. I am finding it puzzling that we cannot find them on any census!

Hi, Mary-ann did marry Edward kelly my mum does have the marriage certificate for them thats how i know who her father is, im not sure how they know who mary-ann's mother is, all i know is that mary-ann was born in nottingham, ive just found out that they lived at 60 coalpit lane, and at some point moved to Leeds as that is where my great grandad was from and where my nan was born. hope this helps.
Thank you nicola

Does it give fathers occupation,is Coalpit lane nottingham or leeds
was this the address on the marriage cert?

yes he was a shoemaker, and the address was nottingham.

could be emma in 1851
Name: Emma Place
Age: 10 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Mansfield, Northamptonshire, England (shoul be nottinghamshire!)


Civil Parish: Mansfield
Name: Hannah Place
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Mansfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Name: Samuel Place
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Mansfield
Name: Thomas Place
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Mansfield



this family in 1861
Name: Emma Place
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Radford
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Nottinghamshire


Household Members: Name Age
Ann Place 7
Eliza Place 2
Elizabeth Place 9
Emma Place 11
George Place 26 --cannot see this age very well on image
Hannah Place 34
Joseph Place 34
Sampson Place 52 ---some transcript errors think this is a son so wriong age

so looks like she is the grandaughter in 1871 census

Thank you Janice once again you have been brilliant, i really am grateful.

Thank you Thank you

Nicola x

Have tried LOTS of ways to try and find them on a census but no luck.

Hi Janice, just had a word with my dad and he said john charles hillyard died in Bradford, he also mentioned that when mary-ann's birth was registerd they spelt her name wrong on birth certificate as it was her mum who registered her and she couldnt write, so we have two different spellings hilliard and Hillyard would that make any difference.
Thanks
Nicola

http://www.familysearch.org you might want to have a look at this site ,you can search 1881 census free and see if you can find any of them!!!!! I'm still trying!

ok will do thanks. :)

1881
wonder if i have found John it says he is married but no wife with him.

George HILYARD Head M Male 42 Sheepshead, Leicester, England Boot Maker

Mary HILYARD Wife M Female 43 Nottingham, England Lace Clipper

John HILYARD Son M Male 24 Nottingham, England Boot Maker

George HILYARD Son U Male 18 Nottingham, England Chair Maker
William HILYARD Son U Male 16 Nottingham, England Painter
Henry HILYARD Son Male 14 Nottingham, England Scholar
Edward HILYARD Son Male 12 Nottingham, England Scholar
Albert HILYARD Son Male 6 Nottingham, England Scholar
Herbert HILYARD Son Male 4 Nottingham, England Scholar
Source Information:
Dwelling 39 Millstone Lane
Census Place Nottingham St Mary, Nottingham, England
Family History Library Film 1341802
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3357 / 91
Page Number 38