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Deborah

Deborah Report 5 Feb 2023 10:58

I am looking for the marriage of the above couple, and any other information, eg birth, death ect, I cant find anything. Have looked on ancestry,FMP,Family search, and The Geneologist.

I have them on the 1939 register living at 1 Tanrallt Cottages, Ogwen, Caernarvonshire,Wales.

From 1939 reg, Edwards DOB 6 June 1901, and Florence 01 February 1902, also a Peter J Williams who may or may not be a son. 01 February 1932.

Would you be kind enough to just have a quick look for me please for any records at all. I am looking for the parents as well, but being Wales it is as usual very hard with common names.

Will try to c and p the transcript.

Deborah

Deborah Report 5 Feb 2023 10:59

Name Florence M Williams
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 1 Feb 1902
Residence Date 1939
Address 1
Residence Place Ogwen, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Occupation Unpaid House Duties
Line Number 29
Schedule Number 61
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Zelf
Borough Ogwen
Registration district 631-2
Inferred Spouse Edward Williams
Inferred Children Peter J Williams
Household members
Name Age
Edward Williams 38
Florence M Williams 37
Peter J Williams 7
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
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Deborah

Deborah Report 5 Feb 2023 11:02

The above information was given to me, so is unverified until I am able to verify it.

I looked for a birth for Peter but couldn't see one with MMN Jones.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 5 Feb 2023 11:07

HVe you tried freebmd.org.uk. Although you can’t add the middle initial the results will give it.

Why do you think Florence was a Jones?

Deborah

Deborah Report 5 Feb 2023 11:14

Yes, there are loads of possible marriages.



Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Feb 2023 11:16

These are possble births for a feb birthdate
Births Mar 1932
Williams Peter Jack Bowden Tiverton 5b 497
Births Jun 1932
Williams Peter J Dangerfield Birmingham N. 6d 869
Williams Peter J Wheatly Swansea 11a 1444
Williams Peter J Pugh Bridgend 11a 1264


All the others are peter John

So born 1 feb and six weeks to register its most likely a March registration , but could have slipped into early April if Reg a bit late

Deborah

Deborah Report 5 Feb 2023 11:17

I was told by the great Grandaughter that her name was Florence Mae Jones, I am trying to verify it.

Please ignore the above birth for Peter, its the wrong one, will delete it to avoid confusion.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2023 11:18

Births Mar 1932 (>99%)
Williams Peter J Bowden Tiverton 5b 497

Births Jun 1932 (>99%)
Williams Peter J Dangerfield Birmingham N. 6d 869
Williams Peter J Wheatly Swansea 11a 1444
Williams Peter J Pugh Bridgend 11a 1264

The above births are the only ones on freebmd which fit the DoB as per 1939

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2023 11:20

1939 from FMP..........a better layout

Edward Williams 06 Jun 1901 Male General Labourer Brick Works Married 61 1
Florence M Williams 01 Feb 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 61 2
The record for this person is officially closed
Peter J Williams 01 Feb 1932 Male At School Single 61 4
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Feb 2023 11:21

Looks a very good possibility

Marriages Dec 1925
Bowden Florence M Williams Woolwich 1d 2208
Williams Edward Bowden Woolwich 1d 2208

So it fits with the March birth registration

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Feb 2023 11:21

IGNOR THIS - probably wrong, see below

Could this be a possible marriage if Edward used his middle name? :-

First name(s) Florence M
County Breconshire
Last name Jones
Country Wales
Marriage quarter 2
Volume 11B
Marriage year 1935
Volume as transcribed 11B
Registration month -
Page number 188
MarriageFinder™ Florence M Jones married one of these people
Arthur E Williams
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Spouse's last name Williams
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Crickhowell
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
District number -
Collections from Great Britain, Wales

There is this birth for Arthur:-

First name(s) Arthur Edward
Country Wales
Last name Williams
Volume 11A
Birth quarter 3
Page 129
Birth year 1901
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Thomas
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Bedwellty
Subcategory Civil Births
County Monmouthshire
Collections from Great Britain, Wales

Kath. x

Deborah

Deborah Report 5 Feb 2023 11:21

The Williams Pugh one would fit the area, I did consider it, it may just be a case of ordering the birth certificate.

They had a son Gerald Williams who married Margaret C Nutt, wont put any dob's, still alive.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2023 11:22

What is your connection to this family?

Helps if we know where to make a start.....................or where you're starting from

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Feb 2023 11:23

Births Mar 1902
BOWDEN Florence Mary Bath 5c 506

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Feb 2023 11:25

Going with the marriage Shirley found this could be Peter's birth (even though in a different district - people did move around):-

First name(s) Peter J
Country England
Last name Williams
Volume 5B
Birth quarter 1
Page 497
Birth year 1932
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Bowden
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Tiverton
Subcategory Civil Births
County Devon
Collections from Great Britain, England

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2023 11:27

So................GERALD born 1945, in Abergavenny district, MMN JONES
Married 1964 in Pontypool district

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Feb 2023 11:27

This could be Gerald's birth:-

First name(s) Gerald J
Country Wales
Last name Williams
Volume 11A
Birth quarter 4
Page 1594
Birth year 1928
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Bowden
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Llanelly
Subcategory Civil Births
County Carmarthenshire
Collections from Great Britain, Wales

Kath. x

Deborah

Deborah Report 5 Feb 2023 11:31

They could have moved ErikaH.

Information from a distant cousin, found her through a DNA match with her, myself, my Mum and another cousin from my Jones/Richards side of the family.

What I am trying to do is work out how we are connected.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2023 11:33

Marriages Jun 1939 (>99%)
Jones Florence W Williams Abergavenny 11a 53
Williams Irving A Jones Abergavenny 11a 53

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Feb 2023 11:33

Deborah

Can’t you ask Gerald for his parents info ?

Would he know if he had a brother Peter ?


Info

Name: Peter Jack Williams
Death Age: 66
Birth Date: 1 Feb 1932
Registration Date: Dec 1998
Registration District: Northampton
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Register Number: C57B
District and Subdistrict: 6701C
Entry Number: 123