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George Hoare married Alice Ada Reading in Dec 1917, Holborn. The family have lots of doc's relating to everyone ( including Alice Ada Hoare death on the 6th Nov 1940 in St Pancras) But nothing about George? the only info I have found is the marriage to Alice which I know is correct. the family think he had a sister Nellie (who was grandmother to Barrett family) in Holborn/Islington.
I found a Thomas George Hoare born in Dec 1880, St Giles and a death for George Hoare in 1954 in Holborn aged 73 which seems to fit !!! Someone has researched before, so they have almost a complete tree apart from George Hoare ?? earliest record of him is the marriage in 1917. Had found George and Alice Ada Hoare together in Holborn on the 1939 register too. Need some help. Thanks

Name George A Hoare
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Registration District South Stoneham
Residence Note Milton Road
Gender Male
Age 0
Marital Status (Original) Single
Relationship to Head of Household Grand Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1881
Birthplace Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Page Number 32
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 1221/44
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

George Payne Head M 50 Odiham, Hampshire, England
Mariana Payne Wife F 37 Maldon, Essex, England
William A Payne Son M 10 Southampton, Hampshire, England
Kate A Payne Daughter F 8 Southampton, Hampshire, England
Alice M Payne Daughter F 5 Southampton, Hampshire, England
Edith M Payne Daughter F 2 Southampton, Hampshire, England
Harriet E Hoare Daughter F 30 Winchester, Hampshire, England
Chas J Hoare Grand Son M 1 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
George A Hoare Grand Son M 2 M Spitalfields, Middlesex, England

Does the marriage cert give his father's name, Nicola?

Who were the witnesses?

How old was he?

is this the thomas george born 1880 its the only one
Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
HOARE Thomas George St. Saviour 1d 73

Without more to go on, it's a needle in a haystack.

Here are a couple of George Hoares of about Alice's age , judging by the various trees on Ancestry which contain her - though there are some wild and wonderfully varied "facts" in those (though maybe he was much older or younger, unless the marriage cert says differently).

These ones have sisters named Nellie / Ellen / Helen.

George Hoare
in the 1891 England Census
Name: George Hoare
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Hoare
Mother's name: Mary Hoare
Gender: Male
Where born: Peckham, London, England
Civil Parish: St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: Kent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 345
Folio: 55
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hoare 28
Mary Hoare 28
George Hoare 7
Alfred Hoare 5
Thomas Hoare 3
Nellie Hoare 1


George C Hoare
in the 1901 England Census
Name: George C Hoare
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: James J Hoare
Mother: Helen Hoare
Birth Place: Rotherhithe, London, England
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 391
Folio: 51
Page Number: 47
Household schedule number: 292
Household Members:
Name Age
James J Hoare 43
Helen Hoare 40
Emily E Hoare 21
George C Hoare 16
Helen C Hoare 14
Annie S Hoare 12
Rose F Hoare 8
Elsie M Hoare 6
Minnie L Hoare 3
Leonard B Hoare 5/12


George Hoare
in the 1891 England Census
Name: George Hoare
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Hoare
Mother's name: Ellen Hoare
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: Saffron Hill and Holborn
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 221
Folio: 39
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hoare 43
Ellen Hoare 41
Margaret Hoare 21
Ellen Hoare 19
Thomas Hoare 14
Winifred Hoare 8
George Hoare 6
Marjoram Hoare 3

Only found the marriage entry on free BMD, before that the family did not even know the first name of Mr Hoare who married Alice Ada Reading...Their first child was called George born 1918, so almost certain the marriage of George and Alice in 1917 is correct. Will have to order marriage cert to get answers. No option left..
So frustrating when they have so much info on every other family member but not mysterious George Hoare!!!
Thanks for your help everyone

this looks like the thomas above in 1881 census aged 7 months has a sister called nellie


Thomas Hoare
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name Thomas Hoare
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place St George The Martyr Southwark, London,Surrey, England
Registration District St Saviour Southwark
Residence Note Barrons Place
Gender Male
Age 0
Marital Status (Original) Single
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1881
Birthplace Southwark, Surrey, England
Page Number 28
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 531/24
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Thomas Hoare Head M 24 St Lukes, Middlesex, England
Isabella Hoare Wife F 22 St Lukes, Middlesex, England
Isabella Hoare Daughter F 5 St Lukes, Middlesex, England
Nelly Hoare Daughter F 3 Camberwell, Surrey, England
Thomas Hoare Son M 7 M Southwark, Surrey, England

The couple in Holborn in 1939 appear to be Ada A Hoare and George, George born 1884.

The child George born 1918? I'm not seeing him with MMN Reading?

Edit yes sorry I see Alice was married before so maiden name Hatswell for George

Thats a great help, I was thrown by the Surrey births of Thomas and Nelly mentioned in the last post but they where from St Lukes which is the right place. Also it could be any of the families found by Malyon!!!
I have been down this road of maybe so many times and learn't my lesson, so will order the marriage cert.
Thanks all for your help again.

Yes Alice Ada was born Hatswell and married Walter William Reading in 1906, Got all that side. Thanks to ArgyllGran for all the possible families too, who would have thought a Hoare would be so hard to find, I thought it wasn't a common name.

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

(Alice Ada Burial on above, if anything else relating)

Chris :)

Burial Register summary
Hoare George
Burial date 26 November 1954
Authority London Borough of Camden
Location St Pancras Cemetery (Camden)

Births Dec 1884
Hatswell Alice Ada Holborn 1b 792


burial register summary
last name
Hoare
first names
Alice Ada
burial date
13 November 1940
authority London Borough Of Camden
location
St Pancras Cemetery (Camden)

London Electoral Registers

Name: George Hoare
Year: 1939
County or Borough: Camden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Holborn
Street address: 24 Doughty Mews

with Alice Ada

same address in 1954
Name: George Hoare
Year: 1954
County or Borough: Camden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Holborn and St Pancras South
Street address: 24 Doughty Mews
on his own!


1948
Name: George Hoare Sr
Year: 1948
County or Borough: Camden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Holborn and St Pancras
Street address: 24 Doughty Mews
With
Bert Hoare
Eleanor Hoare
George Hoare Junior
Leonard Hoare

All still there in 1951, and 1952 except George Junior in 1952

the burial of George Hoare in 1954

buried 26 th Nov Roman Catholic Ground of 24 Doughty Mews
Holborn W C 1 73y


could he have been of Irish birth being R C ???

Mavis

I was given the address of 6 Doughty Mews by the family. Apparently 13 in all, lived at this address including children from Alice's marriage to Reading. Alice died on the 6th Nov 1940 and was buried at Finchley Cemetery.
The Electoral registers above are 100% correct with all the children.Also the Burial of George Hoare in 1954 has to be right given the address.
So George was born in 1881 !! and most likely to be the Thomas George Hoare born in St Saviour Dec 1880. But can't confirm it without the marriage cert, will just have to wait for it to arrive.
Thanks all for your help.

Could someone please look up the 1911 census Bromley for Thomas George Hoare born 1881, need to know the other household members and relationship.

Thinking this could be my Thomas GEORGE Hoare ?? He married Mary Ann E Victor in June 1906, Strand, they had another child Molly E Hoare born dec 1912, Bromley.
Knowing the relationship of this household would be a great help.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
8 Meadow Road Bromley, Bromley, Kent, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas George Hoare Head Married Male Compositor 30 1881 Camberwell Surrey
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Mary Ann Hoare Wife Married Female - 31 1880 Bloomsbury Middlesex
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Kathleen Doris Hoare Daughter - Female - 3 1908 Holborn Middlesex
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Margaret Florence Hoare Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Bromley Kent

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Do you all remember I was looking for (Nelly) sister of George Hoare??
Well I have found her Daughter, Eileen M Barrett born June 1935 along with other children, Winifred M Barrett born June 1931, Maureen J born June 1938, Victor J born March 1941, James M born March 1943 all in Holborn.
Still can't the parents, Mr Barrett and Nelly Hoare?.
I thought the above 1911 census details might be George with sister Nelly?? need to find that Barrett and Hoare Marriage.