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wouldnt the baby have its own death certificate

or if it lived is there another census that i can check after 1901

Yes it would if it was born. A still birth should be registered but I do know that even a baby who lived a short time may not be registered.

In my own family about 1913-14 a boy was born, I know his name from his siblings, he only lived a few days, he died of meningitis, there is no birth/death registered. My sister couldn't find a burial either. When she queried this at the museum where they kept all the documents she was told that for poor families this was not unusual. For a few pence a grave digger would place the baby in a grave and a coffin would go on top. The important thing was the child was in consecrated soil.

The baby would not be seen on a census, the last 1 available is 1911 and Sarah died later that year.

still births were not registered in England until 1927 .................


and even then, the stillbirth register was closed to public view


Only close relatives (parents, and siblings if parents are dead) can obtain a death certificate for a stillbirth.


A stillbirth was usually not registered as a death ...................... the child never lived.

There are several examples of no name but male or female then the surname and the area in the death registers but not on this occasion.

Can't find a Cutts registered baby with mothers maiden name Neal of whatever spelling from June 1911 to Jan quarter of 1912

if you buy her death certificate it may tell you if she died in childbirth


It will not tell you is the child was stillborn or alive


It probably will not tell you she died in childbirth if she died a week or a month after a stillborn baby was delivered, or a miscarriage happened.


but you will only know if you order her death certificate

how can i find her children John cutts and Walter Cutts death certificates. is it bmds ?

You can only find their deaths registered not their certs. You should find their births to get that year correct before looking for the death, they look like 1902 and 1903 so look from 1901 - 1904

Remember Walter was born in Sutton at a guess Sutton in Ashfield which is Mansfield area, John was born in Langwith which is difficult as the area although in Derbyshire the nearest registration area may be Mansfield not Chesterfield.

Good luck, come back if you have a problem. :-)

Surname Given Name DoB District Volume Page Transcriber
Deaths Mar 1970
CUTTS Walter 23 Au 1903 Mansfield 3c 559 EWD


COULD THAT BE WALTER

I cant find John

Deaths Jun 1965
CUTTS JOHN 74 Mansfield 3c 118

this could be john

Name:John Cutts <<<11 Sixth Ave, Mansfield

Probate Date:19 Aug 1965

Death Date:11 Apr 1965

Death Place:Nottinghamshire, England

Registry:Nottinghamshire, England

Probate to: Douglas Cutts, miner & John Clement Drakes, solicitor, £3351

That's not John, look at his age in 1965 he'd be 63/64 not in his 70s. He was born about 1901/2

This looks like it could be Walter


Name: Walter Cutts

Registration Year: 1903
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec

Registration district: Mansfield
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire

Volume: 7b Page: 120


Name:Walter Cutts
Birth Date: 23 Aug 1903

Date of Registration: Mar 1970
Age at Death: 66

Registration district: Mansfield
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire

Volume: 3c
Page: 559

Name: Walter Cutts

Spouse Surname:Winfield

Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1927

Registration district: Mansfield
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire

Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 269

Find Spouse: Edith M Winfield

Possible John


Name: John William Cutts

Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun

Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire

Volume: 7b
Page: 821


Can't see a death

Maybe this marriage

John W Cutts

Spouse Surname: Wall
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1933

Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire

Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 1965

Find Spouse: Florence Wall

can you see if John and Walter were married and had children. do they appear on a census?

I have put in 2 marriages already see above but I can't guarantee they are their marriages.

The last census allowed online is 1911 which you already have on this thread showing them as children. There has to be 100 years between the census and it being made public online so we still have 6 years before 1921 census. There have been mutterings that it may be early but that seems to have gone quiet.

Is there any way that i can find out if Florence Wall and John Cutts who got married in 1933 had any children if the next census isnt available yet. ?

If the marriage is registered in Chesterfield then would children possibly be registered there ?

Can you help me please ?