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Good lord, LadyKira - you've done it again! That's my mother!

There are a few spelling mistakes .

Nanette wasn't her real name - it was just a pet name she acquired, like my grandmother 'Ethel' was called 'Mala'.

Krasnoyarsk.

Lucille.

She spoke Russian, French, and English fluently at this age.

I knew she had spent a couple of years in Japan.

I'm surprised she arrived in Canada - where she went to school in Vancouver - only a year before her parents were killed in Yokohama in September of 1923.

As a 19 year old or so, she arrived in Paris where she went to Finishing School.

Not long afterwards she went to Harbin - possibly to join her uncles Charles and Henry Peacock. It was there that she met and married my father who was working for ICI the chemical firm.

LadyKira - I'll buy a download of that eBook of Dmitri you discovered.

I'll let you know of any interesting revelations.

Thank you again.

Allan

LadyKira - I haven't been able to access that eBook. I've tried everything. It's even in their Wigan library catalogue.

Life of Dmitri Rudolf Peacock, by W. R. Morfill

Allan

Incidentally, I was a member of Ancestors, but got absolutely fed up with being taken to a pay-for-view page every time I tapped the keyboard.

My father went to a school in Taunton, Somerset, England. He was still called 'Schmidt' at the time.

I remember my mother telling me that a certain teacher used to tease and bully my father by repeatedly calling him 'Smitty' in the class.... or so I thought.

I now realise that in all probability it wasn't 'Smitty' at all - but 'Schmitty'.

This must have been during the years of around 1921 to 1927/28.

I've looked for Old Boys lists without luck.

Regards,
Allan Munro-Smith

What was the name of the school?
was it Huishes?

When you say you joined ancestry what form did your membership take?
I am an ancestry worldwide member and as long as i am signed in i do not pay per view.
i did see other records relating to peacocks in russia japan and in fact worldwide but you would recognise which ones belong to you.


i cannot help with the book i am afraid.

I don't know the name of the school. I last saw my father when I was 10 years old.

It was probably a boarding school, because he was (I think) living in Devon at the time.

Okay, I'll join ancestry again. I was feeling quite frustrated that I was getting nowhere.

I'm a Gold member here, and if it wasn't for you and the other kind people I don't think I would have made much progress after a few initial successes.

I'm hugely indebted to you all.

Allan


I've sent off an email to Huish to ask if they could do a search of their Old Boys files... fingers crossed.

reason i ask is that father in law went there as did his brother. was in the same class as arthur c clarke no less. father in law was born 1925 though.

i am only a standard member here. this is a structure for making contacts and matches. ancestry and findmypast have different uses,

It's all new to me. I'll check out ancestry and findmypast.

I still have a lot of loose ends to fill.

Why did my Grandmother Ethel Sarah Taylor Schmidt (nee Hookway) and her son and daughter change their name to Munro-Smith instead of the more logical Hookway-Smith, Taylor-Smith, or Lethbridge-Smith?

Her husband was Schmidt and her mother-in-law was a Jane Munro. Munro-Smith.

I suspect there was a certain animosity in the reason my grandmother didn't opt to hyphenate her father's surname with the anglesized version of her husband's name.

Perhaps her father was appalled at the idea of his daughter marrying 'German'. But 'love will triumph' as they say...

you might have answered that question yourself!


Mother-in-law was Jane Munro-Smith


which means that her SON could also, quite naturally, have taken the name Munro-Smith


which means that his WIFE (your grandmother) would take her husband's name



when did this all happen?


if around WW1 or WW2 ..... the anglicising of a german name happened all the time, inlcuding by the Royal Family who adopted the name Windsor around the time of WW1



sylvia

The mother-in-law was Jane Schmidt (nee Munro), but her father and grandfather were Hookways - so why did she not include honouring her own paternal ancestry by creating a Hookway-Smith, and thus satisfying the egos of both the family lines?

There was something vindictive in her deciding to rename herself and her offspring with her husband and mother-in-law's names.

LadyKira - I entered the details of the post you put up here about the travel arrivals and departures of Henry Kartchkhal Peacock - into the Ancestry.com search site, and they came up with 'zero'.

I'd be grateful if you'd let me know the name of the family tree search site you belong to.

Regards,

Allan


I entered the man's name, the date of arrival, and even the name of the ship. Result: zero.

it was ancestry

have you joined the worldwide usage.?

have you changed the collection priority to all?

Hi Allan, just looking quickly through your thread, reading about Dmitri Rudolf Peacock. I googled his name & clicked on the 1st one that came up, This takes you to the Oxford DNB site. If you click on the "no subscription" under the heading of FULL TEXT, it will take you to a page where you can access the site using your library card. I have just tried it with mine & got in. Shows an article on Dmitri Peacock. Your library can also do a search for you to see if anyone has the book you are after & they may be able to get it for you on the lending service. I have used this service before. You may be able to access the Times through your library as well.
Hope this helps.
Hilary

Thank you, Hilary - I'll chase that up. I'll have to pop down to my library and get a library card so I can access the Oxford DNB site.

LadyKira - yes, I joined the worldwide usage plan. They couldn't find anyone.

I think I must be doing something wrong. I'll have to take a closer look at how it works.

I've got some loose ends on my family tree which I'd like solve before I quit.

Best Wishes,
Allan
Australia


PS. Monthly World Heritage Package is what I'm signed up for at Ancestry.

ok just done it again
search henry peacock

edit search

birth russia

all collections

the only criteria i used
beutiful picture od him as a little boy.

you could also search surname only

vary your criteria

Peacock's in America

http://www.archive.org/details/peacocksomedesce00mott

click read on line or download to you computer

not sure if this is relevant


http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://cdn.wn.com/pd/8a/ec/6b4a59c5bf4732204944e560b7bd_grande.jpg&imgrefurl=http://article.wn.com/view/2010/10/08/Anna_Chapman_glamorous_Russian_spy_bids_farewell_to_astronau/&usg=__4qVXjRAEanKTnJuRt0aHOtfDm8A=&h=293&w=468&sz=42&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=6jqfI46h4g0YtM:&tbnh=145&tbnw=201&ei=kqZSTZCZA4W6hAer_-zXCA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhenry%2Bpeacock%2Bconsul%2Brussia%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26rlz%3D1T4ADBR_enGB289GB290%26biw%3D1436%26bih%3D595%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=125&vpy=89&dur=561&hovh=178&hovw=284&tx=146&ty=82&oei=kqZSTZCZA4W6hAer_-zXCA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0


it is an image of the former russian consule at tianjin

Nice find, LadyKira, but two of the Peacock brothers were working in the British Consulate in Tientsin during the early 30's.

After four generations of living as Russians in Russia, they still had their British passports from Charles Peacock (born ca 1820) who arrived from Lancashire to fill a job vacancy in around 1845.

I sent off an email to a school called St Margaret's in Victoria B.C. to enquire if they have my mother listed there as a pupil during 1922/23.

There's also a mystery about the London Telephone Directory - published in 1947 - which includes the name of Henry Kartchkhal Peacock. He died from war injuries in China in 1943...

I'll also be looking to find where they keep information about names being changed by deed poll. I'd like to know the exact year my father and his parents and sister switched from being 'Schmidts' to 'Munro-Smiths'.

Allan
Sydney Australia