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You see - my problem is - if she did die before Stephen, how will I ever be able to guess at his 'informer'?

It could cost me £40-50 in death certs!!!

Not that it is ALL about the money - but there is a limit!!

Couldn't agree more Elaine, there is certainly a limit on how much to spend on certificates - especially if they are the wrong ones! The difficulty with this one is that so far, there is nothing to narrow down the timescale for his death. And there's no certainty that he used his middle name!

So if the business never went bust,he sold his share for some reason.Money to emigrate perhaps?

Hi,

Yes - rootgatherer - that is my problem. You have hit the nail on the head!!

I will have to look into emigration more closely - but where can I find records that are relevant to the 1882+

Many thanks for your replies!!

Elaine

No mention of a second forename on the marriage record

Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)
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Mitchell Samuel Nottingham 7b 254
Rouse Harriet Nottingham 7b 254
Wood Stephen Nottingham 7b 254

I can't see them in 1871.......................have you found them?

Can't see Stephen in 1861 - his father is a lodger somewhere

To answer your query about the GRO refs and the Archives............basically, you can't cross-refer.

The GRO refs apply ONLY to certs ordered from them - the archives do not use GRO refs.

The only info you could use would be the year, qtr and district..............

Harriett in 1851

Name: Harriett Rouse
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Colston Bassett, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Harby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Melton Mowbray
Sub-registration district: Somerby
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
John Rouse 46
Elizabeth Rouse 44
Harriett Rouse 13


And in 1861

Name: Harriet Rouse
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizh
Gender: Female
Where born: Colston

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: St Ann
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 181
Household Members: Name Age
John Rouse 56
Elizh Rouse 54
Harriet Rouse 23

I'm sure you've got all this, but difference in her birthplace from that given in 1881 may prove helpful when trying to trace her/them

Don't know when/where the 'Richardson' came in, but it wasn't at his baptism

Stephen Wood

Christening: 18 SEP 1839 Geddington, Northampton, England

Father: Isaiah Wood
Mother: Rachel Wood

Hi Freewheel,

No - I cant find him [or them] in 1871 either. His father was called Isaiah and he was a tailor. In 1871 [he died in 1879] his father was recorded as John Wood????? But I have checked the interment [found it by accident] and those who bought the grave were Stephen and his brother Alfred.

Cant find them either in 1861 - except his father Isaiah [recorded as Sarah] who is recorded as a lodger in Kettering, Northants. No record for the rest of the family, however!

Thank you for your 'to the point' answer to my question regarding GRO records. That is what I was asking - again you have hit the nail on the head!!

Elaine

Freewheel,

You have the correct Harriet - born Leicestershire between 1839-1840. Thank you, I hadnt gotten around to finding out more about her family .....yet!!

'Richardson' is his mother's maiden name.

Many, many thanks for your interest - I can REALLY use all the help I can get!!!!

Elaine

Hi Freewheel,

There is a tick at the side of her and her mother's entry on the original census page. Do you think that they had a disability?

Sorry - that is the 1851 census!!

I don't think they are actually ticks - more like marks on the adjoining page.

But if they did have disabilities, they would be specified in the column. No "PC" in those days - they told it like it was!

If you buy the cert for Harriet, it will tell you if she was the 'wife' or 'widow' of ***********

With luck, she will be wife or widow of Stephen, which would at least give you more of an idea of time-scale, as far as HIS death is concerned.

If she's not the right one, of course, you'll be back to square one.

Sorry to be a Job's comforter!

Don't know if this will help--Harriet in 1871 with her parents, but can't find Stephen !

Name: Harriett Wood
[Harriett Rouse]
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Colston Basset, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: St Mary
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: St Ann
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
John Rouse 66
Elizabeth Rouse 64
Harriett Wood 33

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3518; Folio: 31; Page: 1; GSU roll: 839749.

Hi Freewheel,

Yes - I think I shall have to 'bit the bullet' and order another cert - but I will ask for a check to see if she is the wife or widow of Stephen. Before I do that I may see if I have time to visit the archives again on Tuesday, armed with 1 or 2 strong contenders for possible deaths - I have also found one in 1904 which tallies - age wise!!!

Elaine

Hi Barbara,

Your find does help very much, and gives me more food for thought!! I wonder why she went back to her parents? Did they separate? Did he go away for some reason? I will look at this all again.

I dont know how I overlooked her in the 1871 census - maybe I have been concentrating on him too much - sometimes I forget that it also pays to search for other family members. I thought I had but......... well, that is where these boards come into there own!!

Thank you very much for looking for me!!! Your help is much appreciated!

Barbara,

The original 1871 census image says that she is still married!! Another clue!

Elaine

Hi Ginny,

Thanks for your reply!

No, Stephen didnt have a brother called Edward - unfortunately - and none of the other names are associated with him. Forenames that are - are Isaiah, Rachel, Alfred, Alice and Rhoda. These are his parents and his siblings. Surnames of immediate family are Wood, Priest, Rouse and Wolfenden.

I was going to say, first of all, that it couldnt be him, as he is recorded on the 1881 census for Nottingham, England - but stranger things have happened.

Thank you so much for looking though.

What I have noticed whilst looking at the originals of each census page that a Stephen Wood [of about the right age] is included on - is the mis-transcribing. Now I know that some of the handwriting or copies of the census are difficult to read - but some of it is way off the mark! Another lesson to learn - not to believe the transcripts - but to check for yourself!

Elaine

Hi Elaine

I thought the US census was a long shot. Ive deleted it so as not to confuse things.

Keep trying

Ginny
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