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ok! its what ive been told by family. can you trace back from Gordon Thomas Besley b 5/12/1928 his parents were Thomas Besley 1910 married to lillian Parish. His dad is the one then Thomas Besley 1884 who died in the war! 16/02/1915. i just cant seem to find anything maybe you will have better luck.

Hi Sylvia do you have Gordon thomas Besley birth cert and his parents Thomas + Lillian marriage cert ?

June x

no but think i might need to get it to sort this one out!!

Sylvia
Are you sure about Gordon Thomas's birth date. I cannot find a registration for him, searching tthe indexes
Lindsay

Thomas Besley and Lily L Parish married Cardiff 11a 649 Oct-Nov-Dec 1926

its either 1929 or 28 but the date is right! in cardiff,penarth,or barry. that marriage sounds right they had a daughter in 1927 Joan.

no birth 1928/29/30/31/32/33 for Gordon thomas Besley
found Joans but no other with mmn Parish in them years

June x

well thats weird!!! i think i am going to have to double check with him!!

Nope deffinately 1928 in barry all saints church, so he says!!

Thomas Besley married Elizabeth Vearncmbe in St Michaels Church, Milverton by Banns on 26 December 1900. Witnesses were Fred Besley and Sarah Vearncombe

Was he born in the church or baptised??!!

Found a male Parish born the quarter before Lily and Thomas married,(thinking outside the box).
I had trouble finding someone and then found he was born with a different surname to an unmarried mother.
Just no sign of a Gordon Besley anywhere around that time.

no he was baptised in the church!!!
But that explains my gramps for you!!!! always thought he was from another planet!!
Fred possibly Thomas1910 brother!!

what does it mean when they say bann?

The Thomas Besley who married Elizabeth Vearncombe was born about 1879. He was 21 when he married. The Parish Record shows him as being a Carpenter. He was living with his mother in law in the 1901 census aged 22. I could not find any other marriage for Thomas Besley in that part of Somerset. Banns simply means that the church announce the forthcoming marriage in the 3 weeks before the event so that anyone who knows of a reason why they shouldn't marry can object. The alternative is a special licence.

sorry confusion setting in again!!!! thomas 1884 had a brother called fred but he would have been too young to marry in 1900.....?

no thats the other besley family in wiveliscombe.

can we go in the other direction? Thomas besley 1849 married elizabeth chiplin1851.Dont know when they got married but he was baptised on 7/1/1849 in wiveliscombe.

just read through this thread and found this on cwgc site same service number but different date of death so does it help or add to the puzzle!!
Name: BESLEY
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Somerset Light Infantry
Unit Text: 3rd/5th Bn
Age: 17
Date of Death: 16/02/1917
Service No: 1800
Additional information: Son of Steve and Fanny Besley, of Holelake, Wellington. Born at Wiveliscombe.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Cemetery: WIVELISCOMBE (ST. ANDREW) CHURCHYARD

A Thomas Besley married Elizabeth Chiplin in the Wellington Records area in 1871 (according to freebmd). I dont have access to the parish records for this period.