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Hiya all

I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me i've hit a brick wall with trying to find my gg grandma, all i know is that she was married a bloke with the surname Devine, they had a few children Mary devine 1912 sh was my grandma, there was John devine (monty), samuel devine, Jannette ?, Robert Devine(bob).

im so stuck and all the help will be appiacted Regards sarah

yes my grandma was born in derbyshire the rest of the family live in west yorkshire

Possible marriage
Marriages Dec 1911
Devine Samuel Basford 7b 403
Fullwood Mary Basford 7b 403

The district Basford spans the boundaries of the counties of Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire

yeah i think that might be her because she had my grandma is 1912 and her name is devine

Here is your Grandmothers birth.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Mary Devine
Name: Mary Devine
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Fulwood
District: Basford
County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 443

May I suggest you send off to the GRO online for the certificate, this will give the information you need to carry on.


Victor

Victor

If she was born in 1899 that would have made her only 13 when she had your grandmother??

Victor

And possible birth
Mary Elizabeth Fullwood 1886 Sep Q 1886

1901 Kimberly Notts
Ezekiel Fullwood 37 Carpenter Journeyman
Alice 37 wife
Moses 16
Alice 10
mary Lizzie 14
Beatrice 9mths all b Ilkeston Derbys

But that would make her only 12 when she married

i have access to my grans birth certificate but for some reason it does'nt say the fathers name, it only says the mothers surname, my uncle new her as mary, its all a bit comfusing as on the birth cert her name is spelt fulwood and on the marriage certificate is say Fullwood so i dont know whether they have made a mistake,

It is not a mistake, it is just different peoples way of spelling the name.

It looks like your Grandmother was Illigitimate if it does not have her fathers name listed.

But why was she given the name of Devine??


Victor

i don't know how old her mum was when she had my grandmother but she could well have been 13 i going to ask my uncle know and see if he knows hopefully he will have a bit more information

What does it say on her marriage certificate for father??


Victor

The Mary Elizabeth Fullwood I have suggested would be 24 when she married and Ilkeston is in reg dist of Basford

on my grandma marrage certificate it says her madian name is Devine before she married my grandad and change her surname to grundy,

my grandma was born in ilkeston derbyshire

gillian i think you might be looking at the right person,

Yes I think so
In 1891 Ezekiel 27 is Joiner b Ilkeston with wife Alice and children Moses 6,Mary4, Alice 3mths all b Ilkeston

People

What we know so far.

1.) Mary Fullwood married Samuel Devine Oct-Dec 1911

2.) Mary Devine birth Apr-Jun 1912 (no fathers name)

Now there are only two reasons why the fathers name is not listed (as far as I am aware) a) The fathers name was not known. b) The mother did not wish to say who the father was.

What do the rest of you think??


Victor

Gillian, my concern is that it didn't show Mary Elizabeth Fullwood on the marriage cert and I've found this marriage
Marriages Dec 1908
DICKSON Edward Thomas Basford 7b 385
>>>FULLWOOD Mary Elizabeth Basford 7b 385
GREEN Helena Basford 7b 385
HAYWOOD Amos Basford 7b 385

Sarah

What was your Grandmothers name on her marriage certificate and birth certificate please??

Victopr