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JOHN PAYNE JOHNSON DAVIS/JOSEPH GAMBLE

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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 May 2009 12:47

BTW

You can edit your post if you feel you want to change the layout.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 May 2009 12:53

I have ancestry if you tell me who on what census you want christine.
Edit,,I say that as I am a bit lost on where you all are on this.
viv

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 May 2009 13:15

A john and a joseph together
anygood?

1861
about Joseph G Davis
Name: Joseph G Davis
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Welford, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Welford
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View Image

Registration district: Lutterworth
Sub-registration district: Lutterworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 141
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Davis 50<<agri lab
Sophia Davis 45<<a name of one of the children in the post
Joshua Davis 13<<son
Hannah Davis 11<<daughter
John Davis 8<<son
George Davis 4<<<son
Joseph G Davis 4 <<grandson

Address,,back street

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 May 2009 13:20

This is interesting


1891Address: The Green, Milton Or Middleton Malzor, Milton
JOHNSON, John Head Married M 45 1846 Coachman
Leicestersh
JOHNSON, Sarah Wife Married F 56 1835
Leicestershire
JOHNSON, John G Son M 17 1874 Shoe Rivetter
Leicestershire
THOMPSON, Howard H Nephew M 7 1884 Scholar
Northamptonshire VIEW
PAYNE, Herbert Lodger M 17 1874 Stable Helper
Northamptonshire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 May 2009 13:26

1891 for joseph and martha


1891 England Census
about Joseph G Davis
Name: Joseph G Davis
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Northants, Welford

Civil Parish: Welford
Ecclesiastical parish: Welford
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Lutterworth
Sub-registration district: Lutterworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph G Davis 31
Martha Davis 28
Daisy J Davis 3
Percival Davis 1

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 May 2009 13:31

ViviennexxYngxxNghymru

I do not think I am anywhere yet. Just trying to find out about the many names in this post and see if they tie together. I think when we have collected the info we may well find the links.I must admit I am still a little confused by this family.
I cannot see John and Alice in Folkestone yet under any of the names.

Joseph's family in 1851 would be useful.

I will have to go now as my lunch break is over. I will look in when I can but I am not going to be able to spend much time on here this weekend.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 May 2009 13:33

Hi Christine - I just use the Mormon LDS site!!!!! I'm a skinflint!!!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 May 2009 13:40

Your wish is my command
before josephs birth but same family
Please also note that a correction has been made to this entry so a look at trees on ancestry would be an idea.

1851
about Edward Davies
Name: Edward Davies
[Edward Davis]
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sophia
Gender: Male
Where born: Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Welford
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image

Registration district: Lutterworth
Sub-registration district: Lutterworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 32b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members:
Name Age
Sophia Davies 34<<casual lab
Edward Davies 12<<born ,,benwell ,,leic
Ann Davies 10
William Davies 7
Josiah Davies 3
Hannah Davies 1

Edit,,I knew that about Ann thats why I offered myself up for the position of census looker upper as Im not such a skinflint.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 May 2009 13:45

Is Ann Davis on the 1851 in the running for josephs gamble davis,s mother do we think?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 May 2009 13:57

Flygirl.

For me to be able to really understand what exactly we are after .
What is the "link"that is wanted
And please could you tell me when john payne johnson davies was born please
Or his age on his marriage cert.
his fathers name and occupation also please.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 May 2009 14:17

WHEW,found john on 1901 at last


1901 England Census
about John Johnson
Name: John Johnson
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Folkestone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary and St Eanswyth
Town: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 226
Household Members:
Name Age
John Johnson 38<<chemists porter
Alice Johnson 30<<born kent
Ernest Johnson 5
Beatrice Johnson 3
Flora Johnson 2 8 months
Harriet Cole 64
Arthur Cole 33

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so why did he marry as davies and yet uses johnson on here?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 May 2009 14:44

elizabeth johnson is also born welford so may be a sister?
But I am unable to find either of them in 1871 under davis/davies or johnson

1881 England Census
about John Johnson
Name: John Johnson
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Welford, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Mowsley
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: Mowsley Lodge
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Farm Servant (Indoor)

Registration district: Market Harborough
Sub-registration district: Market Harborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Jacques 48
Samuel Chambers 32
Julia Chambers 35
Tom J. Chambers 7
Alice B. Chambers 3
Edwin E. Chambers 1
Elizabeth Johnson 19
William Parker 19
John Johnson 17
Mary A. Chambers 72

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 May 2009 15:32


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Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
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Davis Ann Kettering 3b 281
Frisby Caroline Kettering 3b 281
Johnson Charles Kettering 3b 281
Small William Kettering 3b 281

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 May 2009 15:49

Births Sep 1842 (>99%)
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Davis William Gambel Kettering 15 256

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 May 2009 15:51

Deaths Dec 1860 (>99%)
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Davis William Gamble Kettering 3b 106

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 16:10

Thought I'd have a go at this as well, if that's OK

Found this birth for John Davis (possibly John Payne Johnson Davies in later years) - don't think you've mentioned it yet, but it's difficult to get your head around isn't it ...

Births Sep 1863 (>99%)
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DAVIS John Lutterworth 7a 10









FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 May 2009 16:19

WILMA
I kept looking at that birth too,I think that should be sent for with fathers name as checking ref to find out either way.

Edit,,also there are no John Johnson or Payne births in that district at that time

I am an idiot I was putting the surname where the first name went on freebmd
There is this one but maybe a little late
Births Jun 1865 (>99%)
PAYNE John Lutterworth 7a 1

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 16:20

Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)
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DAVIS Sarah Lutterworth 7a 39

JOHNSON John Payne Lutterworth 7a 39

Reckon John Davis took name of (Payne) Johnson, but on marriage certificate used his birth name of Davi(e)s with Payne Johnson.

Need birth certificate to discover if John Payne Johnson was the father, or indeed is the right John Davis.

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 16:34

1861 England Census
Name: John Payne Johnson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Hollowell, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Hollowell
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Brixworth
Sub-registration district: Spratton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Johnson 52
Elizabeth Johnson 50
John Payne Johnson 19



Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 16:36

1851 England Census
Name: John Payne Johnson
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Hollowell, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Hollowell
Ecclesiastical parish: Hollowell
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brixworth
Sub-registration district: Spratton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Johnson 42
Mary Johnson 50
Mary Ann Eaton Johnson 26
Eliza Johnson 15
John Payne Johnson 9
Jane Hucher Johnson 5