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Vincent Brown born Suffolk England 1895, went to Canada 1912
stayed, looking for any living relatives
Eve

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1220492

Eve

We have been helping you with this family member and it was pointed out that you seem to have latched onto the WRONG Vincent

You cant just start a new thread because you dont like what people have found....it doesnt change the facts hun

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Eve

As Ginny has said, delete this thread and edit the heading on your other thread. Then add an Edit to your first posting on the other thread to summarise what has been found and say what further information you are seeking. Otherwise helpers will go off looking for information that has already been found.

If you leave the other thread on it is useful to people just starting to research their families. It lets them see some of the pitfalls and also illustrates how important it is to check thoroughly every source of information - never trust anyone else's research and where possible look at as many primary sources that are available to you.

Ginny and I are just so pleased that you're on the right track now.

HI Rootgather
Thanks for your help, don't quite understand
Eve

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BROWN, Vincent
Address: Angel Lane Glemsford Suffolk
BROWN, Abraham Head Married M 61 1850 Silk Weaver Glemsford Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Elizabeth Wife Married
39 years F 59 1852 Bildeston Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Earnest Son Single M 33 1878 Factory Hand Bildeston Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Albert Son Single M 22 1889 Farmers Groom Glemsford Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Charles Son Single M 18 1893 Factory Hand Glemsford Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Vincent Son Single M 16 1895 Farm Labourer Glemsford Suffolk

Eve

Stay away from the delete button...you seem to have deleted the original thread that all that info was on?

Thanks LK

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
about Vincent Brown <<Single farmer
Name: Vincent Brown
Residence: Milton, West, Ontario
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1895
Birth Location: Glemsford, Suffolk, England
Relative: Mrs Annie Black 56 Rosebury Gardens Harringay London
Relationship: Sister
Regiment Number: 311755
Document dated 1918

1901 England Census
about Vincent Brown
Name: Vincent Brown
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Abram
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Glemsford, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Glemsford
Ecclesiastical parish: Glemsford
Town: Glemsford
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sudbury
Sub-registration district: Hartest
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Household Members: Name Age
Abram Brown 50
Elizabeth Brown 48
Ernest Brown 21
Florrie Brown 18
Ethel Brown 16
George Brown 13
Albert Brown 12
Bessie Brown 10
Charlie Brown 8
Vincent Brown 6

1891 census - household transcription
Person: BROWN, Abram
Address: Egremont Street, Glemsford
BROWN, Abram Head Married M 42 1849 Silk Weaver
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 39 1852
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Willie Son M 14 1877 Errand Boy
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Ernest Son M 12 1879 Errand Boy
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, George Son M 4 1887
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Albert Son M 2 1889
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Annie Daughter F 16 1875 Domestic Servant
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Lily Daughter F 10 1881
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Flora Daughter F 8 1883
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Ethel Daughter F 6 1885
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Bessie Daughter F 0 (6M) 1891
Glemsford
Suffolk

1881 census - household transcription
Person: BROWN, Abraham
Address: Tye Green, Glemsford
BROWN, Abraham Head Married M 31 1850 Mat Maker
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 28 1853
London, London
Middlesex VIEW
BROWN, Julia Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Kate Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Annie Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Willie Son Single M 4 1877
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Ernest Son Single M 3 1878
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Lily Daughter Single F 0 1881
Glemsford
Suffolk

1861 census - household transcription
Person: BROWN, Abraham
Address: Hunts Hill, Glemsford
BROWN, David Head Married M 38 1823 Silk Weaver
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Sharlet Wife Married F 37 1824 Silk Weaver
...
Essex VIEW
BROWN, Charles Son M 15 1846 Silk Weaver
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, David Son M 13 1848 Silk Weaver
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Abraham Son M 11 1850 Hair Server
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Hannah Daughter F 11 1850 Hair Server
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, William Son M 8 1853
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Agnes Son M 7 1854
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, George Son M 3 1858
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Mary Ann Daughter F 2 1859
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Theode Daughter F 0 (7W) 1861
Glemsford
Suffolk

possible marriage

Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
Brown Abraham Cosford 4a 677
Taylor Elizabeth Cosford 4a 677

LadyKira
This is the Vincent Brown 1895 who went to Canada 1912
stayed and joined the Canadian Army reg no;311755,
he stayed with his sister Annie Black, can you search for
a marriage or children. Thanks
EVE

Eve

Where does it say he stayed with his sister Annie Black? I havent found anything to suggest this?

The first mention of Annie Black was when I found the WW1 record for you and it gives her address as London

Do you have some other 'solid' sources of information please?

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Oh, Eve I can't believe that you have deleted the other thread with all those census records on it and now LadyKira has spent time looking for them!

The next thing someone will be posting the details again about the WRONG Vincent Brown who is the same age and went to Canada and also enlisted there!

So, for the benefit of the helpers who did not see the other thread.

Eve's Vincent is NOT Vincent James Brown, the Yorkshire man who married Myrtle!!


Ginny, that was good of you to re-post the details from his enlistment papers and that 1901 census. Thank you so much for the time and effort you have put into this.

Rootgatherer

I'm still looking but Eve dosent seem to want to answer any questions ;)

Eve we need to ask you questions and sometimes have to go all 'about the houses' before we can come up with something solid

If you don't answer, we can't help you

Right I have found a marriage for an 'Annie Brown', but at the moment Eve, it's only speculation that it's her


Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
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BLACK John Cockermouth 10b 809
BROWN Annie Cockermouth 10b 809

If this is her then we need to find her in 1901, maybe under the name Brown but she could have been married before

We are all trying to help you Eve but I'm gonna call it a day if you dont help us

Hi GINNY
I can see this is not going very far, Idont have any more info to tell you, thanks to all
Eve

What do you mean it isn't going far?

You know more today than you did last week.

Yhis is something that may take years to get fll information but as more records are put on line you will eventually find answers.

You have been asked various questions to help us identify your person but we are dealing with common surnames.
Like
Where does it say he stayed with his sister Annie Black? I havent found anything to suggest this?

The first mention of Annie Black was when I found the WW1 record for you and it gives her address as London

Do you have some other 'solid' sources of information please?

You will need to compare addresses names etc from every piece of documentation you find.

We enjoy a challenge but by its nature research takes time.

Eve

It's OK if you dont have the answer to the many questions you are being asked but we need you to answer them even if the answer is I dont know

This way you will keep your thread going and the more people that see the thread the more heads we have working for you

As LK has said, these things take time and suddenly just click into place. It may be that the info we need isnt online yet but that doesnt mean it wont be in the future

It took me about 12 months to find my family in the US and now I am in regular contact with my cousins!


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Hi Ginny
Thanks for your support, it is very important personally
to find out about my family, sorry for any stress Ihave given
I have not been using a computer for long and I know it shows. Thanks again, will you keep searching.

Eve