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Hi JaneyCanuck
Sorry for the confusion on my part, I thought Vincent Brown
could have stayed with one of the families I mentioned
as there are some family links. Thanks for your help.
Regards Eve

Hi MargaretManson
Ithink I have confused you all, as I am still looking for Vincent Brown which is a mistery but he may turn up, The
reason Iasked about these families is did Vincent stay with
any of them as he had close conections with the Wordley
family in Glemsford England. Iwas given this inf; from a
distant family reli; sorry if this has wasted your time.

Eve

1881 census
Sarnia, Ontario
Richardson, Charles, 37, RR employee, born England
Maria, 36, born "
Charles, 14. born "
Edward, 11, born "
Margaret, 9, born "
Louisa, 6, born Ontario
Herbert, 4, born "
Marion, 2, born "
Walter, 1 month, born "
Morris, Charlot, 66, born England

Death of mother-in-law, Charlotte Morris?

Vital Event Death Registration

Name: Charlotte Morris

Event Date: 1896 11 14 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age: 81
Gender: female
Event Place: Vancouver

Reg. Number: 1896-09-113703
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13092
GSU Microfilm Number: 1927120

1891 census
Vancouver, BC
Richardson, Ch's, 46, car repairer, born England
Maria, 46, born "
Margaret, 19, born "
Louise?, 17, born Ontario
Marion, 12, born "
Walter, 10, born "
Morris, Charlotte, mother-in-law, 76, born England

I'm also having difficulty understanding your request so trying to sort it out. Is this the death of your Charles Richardson?

Vital Event Death Registration

Name: Charles E Richardson

Event Date: 1895 6 14 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age: 50
Gender: male
Event Place: Vancouver

Reg. Number: 1895-09-113774
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13092
GSU Microfilm Number: 1927120

And would this be the widowed Maria in 1901 living with son-in-law?

Pound George H. M Head M May 11 1873 27, born Ontario

Pound Marion F Wife M Sep 22 1878 22, born Ontario

Pound Marion U. F Daughter S Apr 20 1900, born British Columbia

Richardson Maria F Mother-in-law W Feb 18 1845 56 , born England emigrated 1873

Richardson Margaret F Sister-in-law S Nov 22 1871 29, born England emigrated 1873

Richardson Walter M Brother-in-law S Mar 3 1881 20, born Ontario

I'm afraid I'm lost too.

What are you looking to find out, Eve?

Are they things you can't search for yourself?


"A Charles Richardson 1845-from Westminster, Middlesex, .place of death--Vancouver Canada 1895, he married Maria Morris born 1845 died 1937. their marrage was Waterloo, Surrey 1866. several children born in Ontario/ Vancouver, also the name of Mitchell. Dont know if this is usfull,"

What about him? Useful for what?
I think none of us has any idea what this information is for!

I am sorry but I still do not understand your request. Are these all one family?

HI LadyKira
Have you any more updates please?
Regards Eve

HI LadyKira
My granie Lily Wordley married Albert Brown, Allbert went to Canada 1912, with brother Vincent, I know this is a long shot but --- on the Wordley tree. A Charles Richardson 1845-from Westminster, Middlesex, .place of death--Vancouver Canada 1895, he married Maria Morris born
1845 died 1937. their marrage was Waterloo, Surrey
1866. several children born in Ontario/ Vancouver, also the name of Mitchell.Dont know if this is usfull,
Eve

It is a bit jumbled.
can you set it out more clearly and also what you want to find out?
Give as much detail re names dates ad places as you can.

Hi LadyKira
Hope you dont mind if I but in, most of the Browns left Suffolk for pastures new,they had a very large family nice to view resent cencus, my relis; before me. Ihavnt heard yet
of my granies side info;regards the names of the Mitchell
family from Ontario /Vancouver. Also the Richardson, also Morris family went from Middlesex in the 1900s, they are
in the tree somewere. The Browns and Wordleys--granies
family were all neighbours, Albert went to Canada with Vincent, sorry if this is jumbled. Eve

http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Suffolk/Glemsford.html

You will find this interesting

1891 census - household transcription
Person: BROWN, Kate
Address: Tye Green, Glemsford
WEBB, Mary Head Widow F 77 1814 Annuitant
London
Middlesex VIEW
BROWN, Kate Servant Single F 17 1874 Servant Domestic
Bildeston
Suffolk

possible
Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
Brown Julia Sudbury 4a 518


1891 census - household transcription
Person: BROWN, Julia
Address: Hants Hill, Glemsford
BROWN, David Head Married M 68 1823 Hawker
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Charlotte Wife Married F 66 1825
Halstead
Essex VIEW
BROWN, Charlotte Daughter Single F 21 1870 Silk Weaver
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Julia Lodger Single F 18 1873 Silk Weaver
Bildeston
Suffolk

1901 census - household transcription
Person: HARTLEY, Ambrose
Address: Tye Green, Glemsford
HARTLEY, Ambrose Head Married M 28 1873 Factory Labourer
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
HARTLEY, Julia Wife Married F 29 1872
Bildestone
Suffolk VIEW
HARTLEY, Percy Brown Son M 5 1896
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
HARTLEY, Bessie Daughter F 3 1898
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
HARTLEY, Willie Son M 0 (7 MOS) 1901
Glemsford
Suffolk

1911 census - household transcription
Person: HARTLEY, Ambrose
Address: Churchgate Glemsford Suffolk
HARTLEY, Ambrose Head Married M 39 1872 Fram Labourer Suffolk Glemsford VIEW
HARTLEY, Julia Wife Married
13 years F 40 1871 Charwoman Suffolk Bildeston VIEW
BROWN, Percy Son Single M 15 1896 Hairdrawer Suffolk Glemsford VIEW
HARTLEY, Bessie Daughter Single F 13 1898 Hairdrawer Suffolk Glemsford VIEW
HARTLEY, Willie Son Single M 10 1901 School Boy Suffolk Glemsford VIEW
HARTLEY, Lily Daughter Single F 7 1904 School Girl Suffolk Glemsford VIEW
HARTLEY, George Son Single M 4 1907 School Boy Suffolk Glemsford VIEW
HARTLEY, Annie Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Suffolk Glemsford

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)

Hartley Albert Brown Sudbury 4a 1781

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Births Jun 1921 (>99%)
Hartley Clement Brown Sudbury 4a 1721

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BROWN, Bessie
Address: 20 Portland Court Great Portland St St Marylebone W

KILLBY, James Head Married M 77 1834 Commission Meat Salesman Wholesale London Aldgate VIEW
KILLBY, Ann Wife Married
49 years F 72 1839 London Clerkenwell VIEW
KILLBY, Stanley James Son Single M 41 1870 Actor London Bloomsbury VIEW
KILLBY, Leonard Gibbs Son Single M 28 1883 Assistant Secreatary Dept Of Technology City Guilds Of London Institute London Stamford Hill VIEW
BAKER, Muriel Mary Servant Single F 26 1885 Cook Domestic London Camberwell VIEW
BROWN, Bessie Servant Single F 20 1891 Housemaid Domestic Glemsford Suffolk


Bessie and Ethel are on
Reginald George Kemp Tree

at Ancestry.

I am deleting some of the irelevant posts to keep things clear. I am not deleting anything useful to you.

Yeah, eh?! All that to figure out who she was, and then no kids! Blast 'er eyes. ;)

Before anybody starts hunting down descendants of Vincent's other siblings, do you know anything about any of them besides Albert?

I have got to get some work done today myself, but I'm sure LK will be on the trail. ;)

Odds are probably slim that anybody living in England now knows anything about Vincent. My mum's parents immigrated to Canada as children, and when I've contacted relations of her father in England through GR (descended from his mother's brother, for instance), I've got "wellll, I don't think so ..." as the first response, because they knew nothing about us here in Canada. ;)

Hi JaneyCanuck
Well you have all been very busy I have read your transcrips several times over, The Annie mistery seems to be resolved now ,shame theres no children. I can understand why they changed their name from Schwarz to Black.Imust congratulate you all well done, So if you are able to find out more I will be elated, I am viewing all the info; you send I am not always sure when to ADD. Another
thing, my grandmothers side of the family had connections
in Canada, I emailed a relie; from Suffolk, will send. Eve

I don't think it's a possibility for Annie, I think it's a certainty. ;)

She was born Rose Annie BrownE in Bildeston, she was called Annie, she married Mr Schwarz, and sometime between 1911 and 1918 (when Vincent was conscripted, I think it was) they changed their name to the English equivalent. Unfortunately for Eve, they don't seem to have had kids.

So where's Eve??