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He is the only Frederick Chamberlain born in Wales 1878+/- 1:

CHAMBERLAIN, FREDERICK mmn STRONG
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 365

Pontypridd Reg District includes Ferndale.


Parents' marriage:

Marriages Mar 1876 (>99%)
Chamberlain Frederick Pontypridd 11a 416
STRONG Agnes Pontypridd 11a 416


In 1881 and 1891 Frederick and his parents were in Kensington.
I expect you've seen that already.


Frederick in 1911, when he's not with Sophia and Freda:

Frederick Chamberlain
in the 1911 England Census
Name Frederick Chamberlain
Age in 1911 32
Estimated Birth Year abt 1879
Gender Male
Birth Place Ferndale Glam, Wales
Civil parish Sheerness
County/Island Kent
Country England
Street Address Royal Naval Barracks, Sub Depot, H M Dockyard, Sheerness
Marital Status Married
Occupation Petty Officer seaman Of signals
Registration District Number 62
Sub-registration district Minster
ED, institution, or vessel 15-16
Piece 4465

If you wished to know exactly where Frederick's ship (Forward) was on the Census date in 1911 you would be able to find it's location from the ship's log

It is not online and you would have to make an application to the National Archives to retrieve the entry on the date of the Census (April 2, 1911)

"FORWARD
Ordering and viewing options
This record has not been digitised and cannot be downloaded.

This record is stored off site and will take four working days to be delivered to The National Archives.

You can order records in advance to be ready for you when you visit Kew. You will need a reader's ticket to do this. Or, you can request a quotation for a copy to be sent to you."

Admiralty, and Ministry of Defence, Navy Department: Ships' Logs

Reference: ADM 53/21046
Description: FORWARD
Date: 1910 Sept. 27 - 1911 June 6

EDIT- ***Trumped by AG's 1911 entry above***

Is there a site where I can access the 1921 census for free?

No. .it’s only on FMP and has to be paid for

I gave you 1921 for these people on page one

for all the above, you have found him :) I knew a lot about him already so you have just verified what I knew - Thank you
strangely enough I was born in Sheerness.

If you have time i have another problem.
the next generation down I have one date i cannot find.

Born Lillian Joan Chamberlain 03/11/1927
Married Alex Bell 05/10/1946
I have the Husbands Death but cannot locate Lillian's.
I have been told she may have moved to Scotland to be with her Daughter.
She was 57 when he died but have had no luck finding her

If she died in Scotland, the record will be on Scotland’s People website

She was young enough to have re-married……….

To save anyone else looking, the husband died in Kent

The woman’s name was recorded as LiLian at both birth and marriage……….NOT a double ‘L’

She may still be alive, unless you know differently, Debbie.

She hasn't died in Scotland. up to earlier this year, and not in England or Wales up to 2022.

I don't see any sign of her having remarried in England, Wales, or Scotland.

Have you tried contacting the daughter, who is (at least I assume it's her - same first name, middle initial, and surname) on the 2024 ER at the address in Dunbartonshire where she has lived since at least 2016 .

Does the person who thought Lilian might have moved to Scotland know the address?

Maybe??

There is a Lily Chamberlain listed in a retirement housing complex in the UK, Electoral Registers, 2003-2010

Address is in London

I won't post on this page.

Same person is listed on 192.com
ER 2020-22

I think probably not, Jink, unless she and her husband had separated/divorced and she had reverted to her maiden name .

Thanks everyone
it is my dads aunty.
it would be nice if she was still alive :-)

i will keep looking

sorry i have another question for anyone please.

can you obtain certs for parish records? for example i have a parish record on here that simple gives the names of the couple but no date when they married or volume and page numbers. :-(

No.
Parish records are only the sort of thing you have found, with no further info.


Certs are only available for births, deaths, marriages and civil partnerships that have been registered in England and Wales from 1 July 1837, and from 1 January 1855 in Scotland..

Thank you
this is between 1830 and 1835 so I think I may have come to the end of that line.

Actual images / copies of parish records of that time will show place and date of the marriage and will show the names of the couple and at least 2 witnesses.
Sometimes the witness might be a parish clerk, who signed as a witness of many marriages, but it's always worth looking to see who the witnesses are in case they can be linked into the family.

If the couple and the witnesses actually signed their names, this can be very useful as a comparison if you think they may have later married.
A friend was able to use signature comparison to prove that a James marrying near Newcastle was the same person who later married as a widower in Southampton.

What details do you have of the parish record you mention (22/12 at 1519) Someone may be able to find out the date for you by using another site.