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How do you feel about filling in your ethnic group on Forms?

The reason I am asking is that on my recent stay in hospital, a nurse who was filling in my admitting forms, got very annoyed with me because I said, politely, that I would prefer not to answer. :-S

what diffrence should it make if your a certain ethnic group
does your forn get sorted faster i doubt it BC hun xx <3 <3 <3

I would bl**dy annoyed to be honest, Tallulahbelle, and have since made a report to the hospital as I feel so strongly about this. I was curious if others feel the same or am I just plain cussed! :-D <3

What a waste of nurses time ....

Here is the link .

http://www.wwl.nhs.uk/library/igov/leaflets_and_posters/corp%20004%20ft%20ethnic%20origin%20leaflet.pdf


:-(

it is anoying BC <3 <3 <3

I don't have a problem with it in general to be honest, because I can see that having that information 'might' be useful in many cases even though on the face of it it shouldn't seem to matter.

For example, if I were of a particular racial group, the hospital might find it useful to know, in terms of certain things like sickle cell anaemia being more prevalent in those of African descent.

It might also highlight whether there are local gaps in adequate services to the whole community, ie if more people of a particular ethnic background were suffering from illnesses related to poverty or poor housing in a particular area....or perhaps recent immigrants who might have come from countries where Tb or other illnesses were still prevalent?

But definitely think it is your right to say 'no, I don't want to say' lol

:-D

These questions are asked so that when data from these forms is entered into a database, the results show the demographics of an area and usage of facilities.

So they will know, for example, how many OAPs or children use certain facilities and also which ethnic group these different people are from. The reason is that in some areas many OAPs from non-English backgrounds who do not have a grasp of English often do not use the facilities they may be entitled to use.

There will now be a flood of people complaining about them coming over here etc...... But many women who come over following arranged marriages are not encouraged to learn the language and through this they are often isolated from many forms of help, especially where domestic abuse is concerned.

All that said, when filling out forms most now do state that this part regarding ethnicity is optional. For me there is never a correct box to tick.
I am mixed race, English/Irish.

Hi BC
The powers that be inform us that by giving this info. we can be given definite treatment. It's also said info. will be private and in our medical files,but I think it's another way of keeping even more data on our personal lives.

At the end of the day we are all human and if we need treatment or operations we should hope it doesn't really matter what our ethnic backgrounds are.....except I suppose if your race carries a genetic risk.


http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publicationsandstatistics/Publications/PublicationsPolicyAndGuidance/Browsable/DH_5319155

Mau

edit to say: no-one should get annoyed at you because you choose not to fill in the boxes....we don't live in a police state...yet??

we're now living in a police state - big brother is watching us everywhere we go!!

Snap Ann? :-S :-0

I know the reasons why they should be filled in...kind of! But little by little, every piece of personal information about us has been collected and collated until there is nothing left and nothing private.

The nurse told me I was the only person she had ever encountered to refuse that question. In one of the largest hospitals in London? Surely not!

*spitting fire!!

I've just been fined £75 for dropping a fag end out of the car - I smoke rarely but admit I did it and I should not have done it - if you don't pay within 14 days it can escalate to £2,500!!!

Now you don't get £75 for speeding or driving whilst using a mobile phone - both those things put life and limb in danger, a small fag end is trivial in comparison

And what about chewing gum - I presume other cities are the same as Cardiff - the pavements are a virtual carpet of discarded chewing gum

I am seething - but there we are, that's Britain today

You could be fines £60 for driving whilst using a phone though....and penalty points on your licence, and if it goes to court much more.

I know I'm going to be irritating :-) ... but in ref to BC's " But little by little, every piece of personal information about us has been collected and collated until there is nothing left and nothing private."...

isn't that why we're all doing genealogy here...to look at all those pieces of personal info that have been collated and collected...often on people we've never met............ by looking at my gt uncles military records I know his chest measurement and weight....LOL now when forms ask me that will definitely be the time I refuse to answer :-D

Ann ....Hmm I wonder if these Romanian beggars are being find for their Cigarette buts ???

In the papers today..... the answer probably NOT


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2144640/Park-Lane-Romanian-beggars-set-camp-yards-evicted.html

:-S

Ahhh but Rose, personally, I don't particularly want anyone in a hundred years delving into my background and finding...my waist measurement! :-D :-D

Talking of driving while on the phone (sorry to digress BC)....

....Monday me and OH were out walking and about to cross a road with a few others when a car drove quickly from around the corner and we had to stop.A young driver passed us,on his phone,with one hand on the wheel.
But boy it wasn't his day.....as he passed we saw there were two policemen standing on opposite side and they made him stop and pull over.
It was a fair cop alright and we shouldn't have felt smug.....but afraid to say we did. :-| :-)

I think their phones should be confiscated - it's a dreadful thing to drive whilst using a mobile phone

when you stop at traffic lights look at the road surface - covered in chewing gum - it's everywhere, even in lifts and department store carpets - how could anyone spit out a piece of gum and just walk on?

So pleased to hear that the police caught someone, Mau! It is one of the most dangerous habits this driving and chatting on phone, such disregard for peoples' safety.