General Chat

....awww go on ...I will then.

What are your thoughts? x

Morning Muffy, Why should you not mention it. it is topical at the moment, and may possibly become a big issue in the future, so why should we not discuss it.
I'll contribute later, having the necessity at the moment to do some H*****work. I did say necessity, not the urge.

Speak Later

Julia in Derbyshire

Awww you know me Julia...I love a robust debate...I also know there are those that are less keen on them lol ...i'm also having it do my h****work...would rather not but needs must lol xx

As a Scotsman living in England, I would say NO to a separate Scotland although I would like to see more powers given to Scotland to manage their own affairs.

I saw in the paper the other day that a woman in the Midlands said she had never been to Scotland, never wished to go there and treated it as a foreign country anyway!!

Morning Robert :-) I agree let's keep our UK let Scotland manage their own affairs,but, could they manage financially?as viewed on NE tv news, lots of Scottish folk not for it.

Woman in the Midlands never been or wants to go to Scotland?? her loss and if she doesn't want to see the beauty she must be 'crackers!'

Frosty out today brrrr
Mau

that would leave Cameron out in the cold.

:-D

Morning Mau,

Frosty but sunny.

What about putting your Whitley Bay in with Scotland. Your team could then play in a Scottish league just like Berwick Rangers!!

Kay..how so? There are more pandas in Scotland than Conservative MPs lol x

Yes, Muffy, that is correct. 2 Pandas but only 1 Conservative MP. One of the Pandas is poorly at the moment suffering from colic!!

THis is the 21st century. Why on earth anyone wants to go back 300 years is way beyond my comprehension. I hate nationalistic stuff anyway, its just an acceptable form of racism. But if the people want it, go for it as long as its a totally clean break and theres no subsidising from england.

It brings up loads of questions though. Would it turn into a southern and northern ireland? Seperate currencies, membership or not of the EU? Taxation, healthcare, etc etc. its a lot more complex than a simple yes or no!

From a mercenary point of view, it would be a huge burden lifted from the english taxpayer but the scots would see their standards of living plummet once all the subsidies were removed.

What about the Oil and Gas deposits off Scotlands Coast!!

Idealism versus Cash!!

One of the points at issue is what happens to the oil revenue and the whisky revenue but there again will the "English" Government keep the Royal Bank of Scotland debt?
There is a long long way to go Eldrick.

My thoughts?? :-S need I say more ? lol

Marion

Camerson wpuld have no clout in an independant Scotland so how would his status work as PM of the UK,which at this time he is and that includes Scotland which is part of the UK as a whole.

Financially in the grand scheme of things could they survive.

I would prefer to see us keep the UK. I can't see that the advantages are that great for an independent Scotland. If I read it correctly (and I am not that immersed in politics so I may be wrong.) If they had independence they would also take an enormous debt which the people of Scotland would bear. I am sure there will be idealists in Scotland that think it would be great but I hope they research all the pros and cons when/if they have a vote on it. They would have to re-apply to the EU I believe, and what about the armed forces how would that affect them? Surely we are stronger together than apart.

I think that it should remain as part of the UK.Not because I have any deep down feelings one way or another but from the comman sense point of view.

What the union with England did for the Scots was to finally unite them. If they want independence let them have it but I agree lets repair Hadrians wall. It will only be a matter of time before they start arguing with each other, not necessarily in our life time but it will happen. Like any 'marriage' when money is short then love flies out the window.They have many benefits that the English don't have but it is a two-way split.

United we stand, divided we fall.-jl

Ahem. I live north of Hadrians Wall - it isn't the border you know! I have no desire to be part of a throwback to medieval times with a latter day William Wallace as my Head of State!

What I find strangely disturbing is the ready acceptance of the SNP - a nationalistic political party. BNP - no way, absolute pariahs even though the majority of people have no idea what they are really all about as they have never bothered to look further than the tabloid press.

Imagine an English National Party, for English people, campaigning purely for the English and without a care for anyone not born there. Wouldn't last very long, would it. What would it be classed as.....? Oh yes, racist.

:-)

Sometimes someone just needs to say out loud that the Emperor is naked.

But if we repaired Hadrians Wall, Janet, wouldn't that mean that the whole of the old Northumberland (ie everything north of the The Tyne) would be part of Scotland?

Well I was going to give my point of view during a break in my jobs...but I see Eldrick has already said most of what I wanted to say lol.

All I would say is that if it's independence they want then it really has to be just that...no more subsidies and no coming back...a clean permanent break.

Other than me wanting to stress that ..Eldrick has said it much better than I could lol x

I wonder , if Scotland went, would Wales want to follow? They already have the seperate parliament and a strong nationalist party in Plaid Cymru...I lived there a long time and admit freely that if there had come a point where they seperated from the UK, I would have been first out of the door..not that I am anti-Welsh in any way, just that I know that in some areas the anti-English feeling is very strong already.