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Part of the problem seems to be that the social workers are not capable of thinking as individuals.........they can only work ' as programmed'.

Their 'training' tells them to fill in a form........no-one says that they should shout at the tops of their voices (metaphorically speaking) when they see a new-born babe covered in bruises.

They act like robots...totally devoid of feeling and stripped of all vestiges of common sense.

Reg

well said Liz!!!

I didn't read this thread earlier.
Having just read through all the posts I would like to say to Errol, who posted 'God does not protect, on the contrary He gives us freedom of choice!'
what freedom of choice did that little mite have, and those who are maimed, raped, killed by their own country people sometimes in countries worldwide?
I have know several social workers over the years, both socially and professionally and many of them have no idea of the trials and tribulations of the real world. Many have had a cushioned or privileged upbringing and like many judges, can't relate to the hardships of some people's lives.
Things won't be right until each different section of these social services, child protection, mental health centres, csa, everything, is linked together and information co ordinated and exchanged. There also need to be far fewer chiefs and lots more indians who know what the real world is all about, and the money saved on paying the chiefs can be used to help sufferers more.
Lizx

Hi John - I've calmed down a bit this morning!!! I think you might find some comfort on the Depression/Anxiety thread which is dealing weith most forms of mental illness - people have been so open on there are seemingly are gaining strength from it which is lovely. As regards Errol's input to this discussion, it is always good to receive some opposing views in this - it doesn't mean that Errol is not as disgusted as the rest of us over this little baby's death.

Theresa - I do hope that someone somewhere will look after your uncle's interests in the proper way - I know you are looking out for him in a compassionate and loving way, but the professionals have to play their part.

Hi gang, hope everyone else is OK this morning - Love Ann XX

A length of rope doesn't cost much.

I'd be happy to pay for it.

Dianne xx

ann of green gables,
thank you for your comment, i always dread when ssomeone is murdered and the papers scream about crazed people and front page headlines about it been a schizaphrenic i wonder how my son feels when he sees that, but when it is somebody else thas anotyer type of mental illness that kills the wording is so much softer and kinder towards that person, the papers should remember that the truly ill person has family that are in sometimes difficult positions not knowing what to do themselves. (T.G.) my son has always taken his meds.

Nite Ann, God Bless,

love T.x

The really sad thing is that he is a very intelligent man (IQ 178) and a talented musician. He was a great chess player too. I remember having detailed conversations with him as a kid on the world.
Something it seems (following the stone through the MP's window incident) he is still very interested in!

love T.x

I think I shall now go and take my medication and go to bed. You see I have to keep taking the tablets cos I have clinical depression believe it or not, but if I take the tablets I'm fine. Pity they didn't stop me getting in a temper incases like this though!!!!!

It's a problem isn't it Theresa - they need a really good case worker who will follow them and make sure they keep taking the medication but for some unknown reason it always seems to be the case with the majority of them that they won't. It must be so hard for you as a relative to watch it happen every time - why don't they understand?

Ann,

Thats exactly the prob with my Uncle. In 28 days time once his section is up he will be back on meds and 'ok' again. Then he will be released again for the whole cycle to start again until the inevitable happens and he picks an argument with the wrong person and gets fatally injured.

What is the solution?? It has taken 4 years to get him into a hospital to restart his meds. In the interim he has lived rough and sent all his invalidity to some poor 'person' abroad. He wants nothing to do with any of the males in the family, my Gran is now dead and I am the nearest female.................in Ireland...he is in the UK.

love T.x
with loads of questions!

course I will Crougar

Ann XX

you're right - I think another letter to my local newspaper is called for - better not do it now or it will be far too inflammatory
I've got one in this evening's paper on attacks on fire fighters - I really think I'm turning into Victoria Meldrew

thing is Ann, we can do things- instead of whinging on a message board we should be saying things, talking, influencing publicly

I'll do that Crougar and I'll sign all sixty!!!

John - they should never have made such a sweeping statement to you about your son. Having worked at our local psychiatric hospital for nearly thirty years I got to know many schizophrenics and they can be really lovely people - they are afflicted by a terrible illness and their main problem seems to be the fact that once they start to feel better they all seem to stop taking their medication.

Interesting Ann. I too am hopping. My 2 eldest daughters heard about this story and the eldest one who is as placid as a lamb, said he should die very painfully with bits of his anatomy removed with blunt scissors. She doesnt make comments like that lightly.

Got to agree with Errol in this case. God gives freedom of choice. But ask the question did this 'man' (for want of a better name for him) ever have the remotest idea of God.

love T.x

oh crumbs Errol, I cannot look at film footage of Dafur now - the NSPCC ad on TV is heartbreaking too - I could honestly weep buckets forever. Why do people have to be so cruel - man's inhumanity to man. I know we should face up to it and not bury our heads in the sand but what can we do?

i was sickened when i heard the news to-day about the preciuos little baby that that vile and evil father had killed, the social workers were probably keeping their eye on the mother because of her mental state,
i had a son diagnosed with paranoid schizaphrenia six years ago never been in hospital, in a full time job and two months moved away from home, the carers went to meetings where we were told that they have no feelings for other people tell lies all the time are loners and do not care about other peoples feelings, it could not be further from the truth where my son so far is concerned six years down the line, maybe they were believing the father and not the mother, may that precious little baby sleep with the angels may the father rot in hell and spare a thought for the mother who must too be going through her own hell.

(I prefer he or she to "it")