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George Harris Ryder (Lazarus)
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colliemag | Report | 20 Jan 2008 15:42 |
Hi Potty, |
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Potty | Report | 20 Jan 2008 15:09 |
Same family, possibly Thomas and Jane would tie in with the Lazarus births: |
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colliemag | Report | 20 Jan 2008 14:52 |
Thanks for the marriage of Harriet Lazarus, Gwyn. On 1901 census there is George Mann, wife Harriet, a couple of Mann children, and his stepson, George Ryde b1873! George Harris Ryder was married in Sept 1901. The plot thickens! Plus I can find no death for Harris Lazarus. He was deceased before George's marriage. |
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colliemag | Report | 20 Jan 2008 14:33 |
Harris Lazarus was a cloth dresser on his own marriage cert, and on George Harris Lazarus's birth cert he was down as a cloth finisher, but 30 years later on GHR's marriage cert he was a cabinet maker (deceased), which I have to admit rather throws a spanner into the works. It's just odd that everything else fits perfectly. It's possible that he changed occupation to make ends meet. (GHR's new father in law was a cloth dyer). Help! |
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Gwyn in Kent | Report | 20 Jan 2008 14:30 |
Marriages Jun 1896 |
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colliemag | Report | 20 Jan 2008 14:24 |
Thanks for possible siblings. There seem to have been a number of Lazarus families in Leeds at the time, but these births would seem to be about the right time, wouldn't they? I can send for the certificates, anyway, just to check. It would also be interesting to know if they changed their surname at any time in the future. |
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Potty | Report | 20 Jan 2008 14:22 |
What is the father's occupation on the birth cert? |
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colliemag | Report | 20 Jan 2008 14:20 |
You're confused? I'm thinking of retiring to a home for the permanently perplexed!! Yes, this is the marriage between Harris Lazarus, and Harriet Elizabeth Wilson. I've got the cert, and his father's name is Maurice, occupation 'Hawker', her father's occupation is 'Heckler'. As the marriage and all other history is in Leeds I wonder if these occupations have something to do with the mills? I suspect that at least 'Heckler' is not what we would think today, although it's possible that the 'Hawker' is the same. |
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Potty | Report | 20 Jan 2008 14:18 |
Possible siblings: |
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Gwyn in Kent | Report | 20 Jan 2008 14:03 |
Marriages Dec 1865 |
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colliemag | Report | 20 Jan 2008 13:54 |
My husband's grandfather was George Harris Ryder on his marriage cert, father Harris (Ryder deceased) Given his age I worked out that he was born around1874 in Leeds. We have just located a cousin not seen since childhood, and she says that while searching through her mother's things as a child she came across a document or paper with the name Lazarus on it. Having been caught 'snooping' the next time she looked it wasn't there! As I have made no headway with Ryder I tried FreeBMD and found a George Harris Lazarus, b1872 in Leeds and sent for his birth cert. His father was Harris Ryder, mother Harriet Elizabeth formerly Wilson. The only Harris Lazarus I can find of about the right age is on the 1841 census in Leeds with his mother, Betsey Lazarus, but nothing after that until the marriage to Harriet, if it's the same person. Can anyone shed any light or make any suggestions as to where I go from here? How would I find out about his change of surname? |