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anyone no of the pemberton family my grans father was murdered at the age of 3 her surname was pemberton then her mother re married and took the name parkinson which bacame my nans maiden name until she married herself which then made her a collins (jessie rosina collins) maiden name parkinson as we knew her but formerly known as pemberton

"murdered at the age of 3"......is that a typo? Do you mean she was 3 when he was miurdered?

If you are trying to trace back from him then you will need to find some details for him, ie his marriage, birth etc. Census returns either for him or his ancestors together with the relevant certs/baptisms etc.

If you want details about the murder itself then you can try the a2a website, local newspapers etc, they might also give clues for other family members.

Without knowing who, where and when it is difficult to say where you should look.

Glen

To allow people to help you, if that is what you wish, you must give us some idea of the years in which these events occurred.......plus the location.

Full names of the people involved would also be helpful.........

Reg

yes sorry she was 3 so far as i no it happened in southwark (lambeth) he was 38 he was born in 1880 and died in guys hospital in 1917 20th sept his name was william and married to sarah pemberton

Have you got the marriage cert for William to Sarah? Name and occupation of his father should (hopefully) be given.

His birth cert will give you both parents names (assuming his parents were married)


The only likely William Pemberton marriage to a Sarah on freebmd is in 1901 unless they married well away from the London area. Is the maiden name of Sarah really Pemberton or something else?

Glen

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was he William Pemberton

thers no William Pemberton death reg sept or Dec qtr 1917 !!

I would hazard a guess that this is your gran's birth, but if so, it means that her mother's maiden name was Pembleton and her married name was Parkinson:

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Parkinson Jessie R / Pembleton Wandsworth 1d 871

I haven't found a Parkinson-Pembleton marriage.

There is this Parkinson-Pemberton marriage, but Wigan's a very long way from London, and anyway the wife isn't called Sarah:

Marriages Dec 1912 (97%)
PARKINSON Mary O / PEMBERTON Wigan 8c 223
PEMBERTON William / Parkinson Wigan 8c 223

In that case heres Williams death ref

Oct qtr 1917

William Parkinson age 38 Southwark 1d 4

Guys Hospital would come under Southwark

and the marriage

Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Parkinson William Adam Wandsworth 1d 1179
PEMBERTON Sarah Ellen Wandsworth 1d 1179




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probably them on the 1901

Name: William Parkinson
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address48 Latchmere? grove:

Occupation:general labourer

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Northwest Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 226
Household Members: Name Age
George Parkinson 1
Sarah Parkinson 20
William Parkinson 22




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 452;

Well done, Shirley, I only searched for the marriage from 1900.

Tina, where did the information in your first post come from? Does it say "formerly known as Pemberton" on your gran's marriage certificate?

I've had a quick look in the Times Digital Archive, but I can't find anything about the murder.

so seems Sarah didnt remarry !! she was Sarah Pemberton and she married William Parkinson in 1898 .
Jessie Rosina was born Jessie Rosina Parkinson mmn Pemberton so she married in her birth surname of Parkinson

That's right (except that Jessie was born in 1916). That's why I'm puzzled about Tina's first post, when she said her gran was "formerly known as Pemberton".

I did nudge this thread to accompany another one, definately needs some certs ordering to clarify things, especially as these are direct line ancestors.

There is nothing obvious on the a2a site re the murder either, no record of an inquest, trial or mention of the name for the timeframe.

Glen

the death cert needs buying and the marriage one to in order to go back for further family info