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Mhairi Queen of Scots

Mhairi Queen of Scots Report 7 Jan 2008 19:42

Is this John in the 1891?

Name: John Stacy
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Marlow
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Great Marlow
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wycombe
Sub-registration district: Great Marlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Stacy 4
Bertie Stacy 11
Elizabeth Stacy 48
Florence Stacy 9
Harry Stacy 2
Herbert Stacy 12
John Stacy 22
Kate Stacy 7
William Stacy 48

Rebekah

Rebekah Report 7 Jan 2008 19:38

My great gran was Edith Rose Stacey b 17 06 1901 her parents were John Stacey and Fanny Mansey.b 1869 and 1872. John and Fanny married 17 02 1892 and on there marriage and birth certificate it has his father as William.
The family were from the Farnham area and on the map there is a Midhurst not far from Farnham.

Rebekah

Rebekah Report 7 Jan 2008 19:32

On the birth certificate at the top it says registration district Midhurst in the sub district of midhurst in the counties of Salop and Southampton.

William would have been my3 x great grandad on my mothers side.

Julie

Julie Report 7 Jan 2008 19:25

No can see one that i would say was him sorry

Jacqui

Jacqui Report 7 Jan 2008 19:25

Rebekah

If Mary Ann was married the cert would say

Mary Ann Stacey formerly ............. so it looks like she was single.

Confused by Salop and Southampton they are at opposite ends of the country.

How did you come to be researching him in the first play? Have you got him on later census.

Julie

Julie Report 7 Jan 2008 19:22

Theres this one its not down but mums name is Ann White

Wm Stacey
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil Parish: West Bourne
Hundred: Westbourne and Singleton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub-registration district: Westbourne
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Stacey 5

Rebekah

Rebekah Report 7 Jan 2008 19:14

yes please if possiable.

His birth cert says he was born on 5 jan 1839 in midhurst and his mother was mary ann Stacey.

I have found more than one Midhurst on the map but my crtificate has the counties of Salop and Southampton on.

Many thanks

Julie

Julie Report 7 Jan 2008 19:04

Hi Rebekah

Do you want a 1841 look up for him

Rebekah

Rebekah Report 7 Jan 2008 18:57

Many thanks.
His mothers surname on his birth certificate is also Stacey so am not sure if that would have been a married name for her or her maiden name

Huia

Huia Report 7 Jan 2008 18:32

Rebekah, was he baptised? If so, the parish records might tell you if he was illegit. Sometimes they say 'illegit of' some of them say base born or even bastard. Some just have the mothers name and in the occupation square 'single woman'. Parish records can be quite helpful at times.
Huia.

Potty

Potty Report 7 Jan 2008 18:01

As Reggie says, lots of illegitmate children "made" up a name for their marriage cert or used the name of their mother's subsequent husband, ie their unoffical stepfather

Jacqui

Jacqui Report 7 Jan 2008 18:01

hi Rebekah

In this case no you shouldnt - Assuming the bc and the mc are for the same William, then you would have to say he made up a father when he married.

Have you checked the 1841 and 1851 census to see if there was more than one William?

Jacqui

Rebekah

Rebekah Report 7 Jan 2008 17:50

I got his fathers name from his marriage certificate.
Should I not take this to be the case?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Jan 2008 16:54

If the father's name is not on the cert, the child was illegitimate.

Where did you find out that his father's name was John?

If it was on a marriage cert, there is no guarantee of the veracity of the info..........many, many, 'fathers' are named on marriage certs for the sake of propriety.

Reg

Rebekah

Rebekah Report 7 Jan 2008 16:50

I have a William Stacey b c1839 in my tree. I know his father was John but was unsure of anything else. I recieved his birth certificate today and it only had a mothers name on.
Is there any way I can be sure I have the right certificate?

Many thanks for any help anyone may be able to give.

Rebekah