Genealogy Chat

Well I hope you find John and what happened to him. Don't suppose it will be easy.

Bascat,

John Brown, s of Willliam & Hannah Brown
Baptised 27.8.1820 - Eltisley.

I can't take the credit though. Another GR Member visited CRO and found it.

So now I have Browns as well as Smiths in my 'extended' family! Hey Ho!

M. Steer

Margaret, thats absolutelty brilliant. Now you know what happened to her. She was there all the time, taking the proverbial.

I had a 2x g.grandma like yours. She seemed to disappear after hubby died. Found out in the end, she upped to London and remarried.

O the joys of genealogy.


By the way, did you find that Brown baptism on Camdex in the end.

Bascat, just to let you know, Hannah Sewell was a 'widow of Croxton' so very most likely she is in fact my Hannah Saywell.

It's a minefield having Saywells and Sewells in the family.

Thanks for your help.

M. Steer

Margaret
Thanks for the information on the Sole Society.
I hadn't heard of it, looks interesting.
Best wishes,
Caroline

Let us know how it goes.

Caroline, we're probably related somewhere in the 'dim & distant past'. Have you ever had a look at the web site for the Sole Society?

Bascat, I thought you meant the Camdex web site not the CFHS.

Another GR member has offered to do a 'look up' at the CRO - 'fingers crossed'.

M. Steer

Margaret

http://www.cfhs.org.uk/index.html

click on "searchable databases" down left hand side.

then "cambridgeshire baptism index" also on left.

There are other databases as well, which you might find useful.


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Maybe if you emailed Cambridgeshire record office and asked them to look at the marriage in Eltisley for you. They could then tell you if Hannah was a widow or not and maybe if from the parish of Croxton.

Dear Margaret
I am related to the Leicester Saywells and they are sometimes transcribed as Laywell.

Best wishes,
Caroline

Thanks Bascat,

This isn't going to be easy (as if anything ever is) with a name like Brown.

I have the Baptism, Marriage & Burial Indices for Cambridgeshire but can't find a marriage for Hannah and William Brown. Not that that surprises me, for the most part, they've been worse than useless.

You said you found a Baptism for John Brown (1820) on Camdex. I use Camdex quite a lot and have found it invaluable but I've never been able to find anything pre-1837. I'm obviously missing something! How did you get a record for 1820?

I'll scrutinise the 1841 Census for John Brown in Eltisley and see if any other names 'ring a bell'.

M. Steer

Hi Margaret

I looked at the Camdex website to see if the Browns had any children. There appears to be a John baptised 1820 in Eltisley, but I can't identify who he might be in 1841, if he lived that is. So a possibility your g.g grandad had a half brother.

Thankyou all SO very much.

Sometimes you can't see the wood for the trees.

Selena, I don't think either of the two Hannah's you found are mine - there are a number of Saywells in the Leics., and Kent areas - but all of mine seem to come from Cambs/Hunts.

Chris, yes James & Charlotte are my Gt.Gt.Grandparents - it's definitely them.

Bascat, I feel certain the marriage you found is my Hannah - I have both Saywells and Sewells in my family line (all from the same area) and they often get 'mixed up'.

So it looks like Hannah re-married and became Mrs. Brown (what a name to contend with!)

Thanks again,

M. Steer

Thankyou all for your replies.

You've all given me so much to think about. Anything is possible. I need some time to think.

M. Steer

Found on Camdex, (B M D,s for Cambs.)
Deaths,

Brown Hannah, 1856, age 74. Caxton.

Brown William, 1856, age 75. Caxton

Brown William, 1856, age 70. Caxton



Chris :)

From NBI


Hannah BROWN Date 10 Apr 1861 Age 72 Residence of Malcolm Street Notes – Yard Cambridge, Holy Trinity CAM

There is a death for a William Brown, Caxton, 1856,
a Hannah Brown 1861, Cambridge.

Chris :)

Saywell/Sewell, if you say it quick it would sound the same, considering the accents in Cambridgeshire.

Hello Bascat,
yes, James and Charlotte look to be Sewell, on all other Census in Croxton. As you say, a William and Hannah Brown are also with them on 1841, also on 1851.

Chris :)

I think this is the scenario.

In 1841 with James and Charlotte Saywell, in the same household, there is a William and Hannah Brown, aged 55yrs and 50yrs.

I found the following marriage on Boyds marriage index.

1819 / BROWN WM / SEWELL HAN / ELTISLEY / CAMBRIDGESHIRE


Am wondering if Saywell has been mistaken for Sewell. A look at this marriage in the parish registers would tell if this Hannah was a widow.

or earlier

HANNAH SAYWELL
Marriages:
Spouse: JOHN RULE
Marriage: 23 NOV 1818 Saint Margaret, Rochester, Kent, England