Genealogy Chat

Ozi,

The census records you've found for Henry look really promising. Sorry it's taken me so long to reply. I've been trying to find Norfolk baptisms but still no luck with George's birth record!
Thanks so much for all your help!

Andrea

I think this is Ann, George & Robert Neve.
Look at the image - George's surname looks like Neve & George & Robert are both sons.

1851:
Name: George Mee
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Stalham, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Hautbois Magna
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address: Coltishall Street

Occupation: Boatman

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Aylsham
Sub-registration district: Eynsford
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Mee 57 - b. Barton
George Mee 20 - boatman
Robert Neve 17 - boatman
Ann Neve 5 - grandaughter, scholar

Here's a possibility.

1841:
Name: George Neve
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Coltishall
Hundred: South Erpingham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address: D_____[?] Lane

Occupation: waterman

Registration district: Aylsham
Sub-registration district: Buxton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Neve 50
Ann Neve 45
John Neve 15 - waterman
Mary Ann Neve 14
George Neve 10
Robert Neve 7



1861:
Name: Henry Neve
Age: 70
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Statham, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Horstead
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address: Norwich Rd

Occupation: Waterman

Registration district: St Faiths
Sub-registration district: Sprowston
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Neve 70
Ann Neve 67
Ann Neve 15 - grandaughter, teacher

There's this one but no children.

1851:
Name: Henry Neave
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Stalham, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address: North Quay

Occupation: Boatman

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Neave 38
Mary A Neave 33 - b. Smallburgh
Pamela Fox 23 - sister-in-law, b. Smallburgh

Hi Ozi,

It looks like Boatman but isn't fantastically clear.

Andrea

Have you got his father's occupation?


Ozi.

Hi,

I now have William Neve's birth certificate which confirms his dad is George Neve and mum is Ann Neve (formerly Chamberlain).
I also have George and Ann's marriage certificate which states that George was 'of full age' which still doesn't help me find his birth record! Aaagh!
They married in Aylsham and lived in Yarmouth on all the census'.
The census records show his birth place as being Stalham, Norfolk but I can't find anything for the right time period (EYB on census is 1834)
I now know that his father's name was Henry Neve (from marriage cert).
Any ideas where I go from here? Thanks

Ah, I see! That makes sense. Thanks.

Well, if you get the birth cert, you can hopefully find the marriage ref then you can buy the marriage cert which will give his fathers name and occupation - which will help trace his birth.

Thanks for all your help. I'll definitely read those tips.
I've just ordered Great Grandad William's birth cert so when it arrives I'll hopefully be able to confirm George and Ann and get her maiden name.

Not sure that will help me find a record of George's birth though so any more help in that direction would be great.

Ill nudge up the tips for newbies for you. Ive been doing this maybe 4 or 5 years now but Im still a relative newbie and there are people on here who are brilliant.

Ah, yes I wondered if there were two wives. Take it slowly - keep all the bits people have found here - print them off as they will come in to place some time but you must always verify facts before moving on. Get the birth cert - £7 from GRO online, never pay more, using the refs from freebmd.


PS The ann I mentioned possibly dying was the possible first daughter born Stalham in 1852.

Oh also, I don't think Ann died until 1900. She appears on the 1871, 1881, 1891 census (where they are living in Gt Yarmouth) but is not on 1901 (George is shown as a widower). I have found a death registerd Jan/Feb/Mar 1900 in Yarmouth with the right EYB which I think is her.

However I know from another branch of my tree that it is entirely possible that there were two wives both called Ann. I probably need to slow down and get it all straight in my head!

Crikey, Thanks Heather, that's really helpful and some good tips. I take it you've been doing this a while?

Oh, dont forget to try variations of the names on all sites, e.g. Neave

The boy baptsied in Aylsham William Henry may be the first boy then and he and Ann died? You can go to freebmd and check for deaths. If your William was born Yarmouth then they must have moved at some time as Stalham isnt that near.

Always assuming of course, that we have the right George and Ann marrying! So, quite rightly get that birth cert first before you assume these are the right people. Then we will know the mothers name and be able to search for the correct marriage. He may have even remarried to a second Ann.

Another confusing thing I forgot to mention. I think there must have been two son William's. On the 1871 census it shows a William H Neve aged 9. This is too old for my William who wasn't born until c1873 and was a William Samuel James.
I supose William 1 may have died and next son also called William?

freereg - brilliant site, quite new but adding 250000 records a month - any one want to volunteer to help transcribe??

Then there is (for Norfolk) Norfolk transcription archive. Again, wonderful site but no longer being updated.

IGI on familysearch is good for pre 1837 but very little for Norfolk.

I'm probably being thick (but I am new so be gentle!). Where are you looking up parish records?

Thanks guys - you're so quick!

I have Brewer's Labourer for George's ocupation and I don't have any of the children's birth certificates yet. I will send for William's which I think I have found registered Apr/May/June 1873 Yarmouth.

Heather - where do you get baptism records from? That looks a good possibility.

Thanks for the Chamberlain link, I'll look into that now!

Thanks for all help!

Looks like the 1851 marriage is the one with Ann the daughter 1852 being first child.